Is it normal for a marine?

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I know a Marine who I'm baffled was even accepted into any branch of the military. He could never hold a job and was always pushing girls around because pretty much any guy could kick the shit out of him (he's weak af), he's horrible with money, and is a two-faced liar.

I was thinking the military would change him, but he's still the same. He's skinny and weak af with no muscle, still irresponsible af, still full of shit, and still acts like the biggest asshole ever. I was always under the impression boot camp, especially Marine boot camp, would straighten out a shitty attitude, build discipline, and make guys fit and strong. I don't see how this guy hasn't gotten discharged yet, considering he literally needs to be told what to do all the time and cannot do anything for himself.

Are the military's standards for what they accept actually very minimal, or did somebody pull some strings for this guy or something? Is he just a bench warmer?

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  • Tommythecaty
    3 years ago

    Being a douche is actually a prerequisite.

    Normal.

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    • LloydAsher
      3 years ago

      For a marine? Definitely. He probably knew how to keep his assholish nature tame until he was released back into the world.

      I've worked with the marines since I was a sailor on an amphibious ship and while they had an asshole tinge they were our assholish meat sheilds and we were their gay glorified taxi drivers. Someone lacking a spine like that will get weeded out eventually either through court marshal or a bullet/ punch somewhere.

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      • Tommythecaty
        3 years ago

        I thought they just weeded them out in training.

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        • LloydAsher
          3 years ago

          Some can hide their tendencies. Not much you can do if you are a good bullshitter

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          • Tommythecaty
            3 years ago

            Yeah I heard it comes out in one way or another, like through actions. I remember someone saying why don’t they just put all these psychopaths in the military and I was like because they don’t function well. They hate authority, team work, lie and let others do the fighting to protect themselves. They often get discharged pretty quickly for conduct issues.

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            • LloydAsher
              3 years ago

              Yeah dumb psychopaths and sociopaths think they'll get paid to kill people and come home a hero. When in reality they are way more likely to be sorted out in bootcamp and thier first command.

              Basic is the easiest command I was ever in. Idk if its Stockholm syndrome or something but I look back at bootcamp with a smile even though it was hell (it was later learned that I had barely any testosterone production so the fact that I passed bootcamp was a testament to willpower or the navy really is lacking on the PE... probably both)

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  • SkullsNRoses
    3 years ago

    Have you seen proof he’s in the marines? Perhaps he’s a liar?

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    • LloydAsher
      3 years ago

      I've seen enough used military attire in second hand stores to know that's a definite possiblity.

      I dont want to get rid of my clothing because I know for a fact some homeless guy will wear it trying to get more money. If I truely wanted to get rid of my clothing I would burn it (respectfully)

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      • SkullsNRoses
        3 years ago

        By putting it on a pyre, floating it out onto a lake and shooting it with a flaming arrow?

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        • LloydAsher
          3 years ago

          More like on a wood fire with any old american flags I have in the garage.

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  • CDmale4fem
    3 years ago

    Are you sure he actually went into the marines or is he just a poser ?

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
    3 years ago

    I was a great athlete at 17-18 did ROTC and young marines and hoped for a military career and I was denied twice. I was big and in really good shape too. First the marines denied me for having only a GED. Tried the Army they denied me for taking prozac. They said you have to be off any pills for atleast 2 years. Came back two years later and they permanently denied me for having metal in my ankle due to a break. It seemed like to me the standards were high because on paper I looked like I'd be accepted with the ROTC and YM experience and my athleticism

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    • Boojum
      3 years ago

      Rules change, and I have no idea when you tried to join the Marines, but my experience means I'm surprised they rejected you because you didn't have a HS diploma.

      I joined the USN in 1975, and I had a GED too. It's a very long time ago, so I don't recall the details, but I don't remember that being a problem. But maybe that was due to me doing well on the recruitment test. I signed up under a program where I knew which speciality I'd be in, and my recollection is that the only thing I wasn't eligible for was nuclear propulsion. (Strangely enough, I went for one where I joined as an E-3 with a guaranteed promotion to E-4 on completion of advanced training.)

      In any case, my experience of Marines left me with a clear impression that, as a group, intellectual brilliance isn't their strong suit, so it surprises me that a GED wasn't good enough.

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      • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
        3 years ago

        I was surprised too. The bureaucracy just wouldnt allow it. My dad is a local politician and had a good relationship with some senator or congressman and was going to ask him to get me in but then when I got arrested for aggravated assault my father refused to ask on my behalf. Then I broke my leg and there was no chance I could ever join.

        But it would have been fun I think. I would have still been in the service I bet. Ive always been into that kind of shit. I always dreamed of being a warrior or a fighter or something like that. I love to watch anything about ww2 or vietnam.

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        • LloydAsher
          3 years ago

          The military isnt looking for highschool drop outs anymore. Since I belive they are looking for a more high quality stock of volunteer soldiers. Of course they'll lower the standards if they need to make a quota.

          A family friend wanted to know my asvab score (he was an A and B+ highschool guy, I was a straight C and D student) he was so disappointed when I told him I scored an 84 compared to his 61.

          I think the military just doesnt want to deal with people that dropped out of highschool cause that just implies problems with them as a person. If I actually applied myself I could easily of been a B+ student.

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          • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
            3 years ago

            Exactly, I asked the recruiters why and they said it was because the us government did a study and realized that people with ged are like 20x more likely to drop out of bootcamp or go a wol

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            • LloydAsher
              3 years ago

              The goverment would rather weed people out early to prevent them to be a cost later in their career and cost them hundreds of thousands. Unfortunately I'm one of those people who costed them hundreds of thousands through my honorable discharge 2.5 years early. Apparently you cant serve on a ship if you need constant meds (to be fair a year supply could fit in a juice box) which makes sense for obvious reasons. And since I was an OS I was shit useless anywhere besides a ship. So I got off early with an honorable, 70% college off, and a stamp on my Drivers license and plate.

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  • Boojum
    3 years ago

    I left the USN in the mid-eighties. So my period in the service was during a different time to today's world, and I have no idea how much might have changed.

    Because the submarine tender I worked on carried nuclear weapons, there was a USMC security detachment stationed aboard. I did my best to have as little as possible to do with the jarheads, since my clear impression was that most were obnoxious dickheads with a grossly inflated opinion of themselves. I'm sure that's because the macho mystique of the Marines attracts guys who are naturally egotistical assholes with limited intellectual ability and even less capacity for introspection, and they are then indoctrinated into believing that they're fucking indomitable superheros.

    It's long been a fallacious belief of the political right that any young person who has antisocial tendencies or a lack of self-discipline would benefit from a spell in the military. There might be a smidgen of truth in that for a minority, but putting an asshole in a working environment where the primary requirement is that they slavishly follow orders is not going to promote personal growth and development, and it's not going to automatically result in an asshat turning into an emotionally mature, productive member of society who's a pleasure to spend time with. For many, all that will happen is that they'll learn how to be better at concealing their failures and misdemeanours.

    I haven't researched the figures, but I wouldn't be surprised if the USMC hasn't been able to choose only the best of potential recruits for a few years now due to the US economy steaming steadily along and unemployment being low. The US military is solely volunteer, so the pool of possible recruits is limited to whoever decides to walk in the door of recruiting stations. If the services want to keep up their numbers, and there's a shortage of volunteers, they have to accept what they can get. It's entirely possible that the guy you're talking about would never have been accepted by any of the services if there was higher unemployment and more guys were volunteering because that was their only real employment option. It's also possible that he would have long ago been kicked out if the Corps had a waiting list of guys wanting to join.

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