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I find it shocking how many people have no idea how Fasfa works. Even people who have used it seem really lost as to how the concept work. I feel like I might just make a tutorial and explain it to people since people are clueless. Most people also assume after 18 you are legally independent on Fasfa which is totally wrong. You have to wait till 24
Totally bullshit. I apply four times. Get back with you two to three days my ass. That system is fucked. )
Get off your high horse bitch because you can't even fucking spell it correctly. Its FAFSA not fasfa. Once is a typo, twice makes you a dumbass.
US student loans. I gather they make it a bit complicated to try and weed out the party animals, so the money goes to serious students, since so few have any intention of paying the money back, anyway.
Hell, they even tried to pass legislation to forgive all student loans a few years back. Talk about bad faith on the part of the students.
In Australia the right wing politicians tightening up on student loans all got their university educations totally FREE under left wing governments a few decades back .....
You seem to believe that education and qualifications are only of benefit to the individuals obtaining them: surely it's good for the country in general if people are more skilled? I'm not talking about PhD's and other useless crap but qualifications (eg medicine) which fit people to improve conditions generally.
There are huge scandals in Australia at the moment about government subsidised private so-called education institutes which rip off huge fees from students and then go broke, only to re-open under other names. There is also enormous competition for even the lowest paid jobs, which are more likely to be given to new arrivals or backpackers because they'll work for virtually nothing and put up with shit conditions and blatant exploitation.
On the subject of students working their way through college, I tried that myself about 10 years ago and had to drop out because the class & study workload plus mandatory voluntary placement work didn't leave me enough hours to actually work to support myself after the first placement free semester. The course had 30 students until the start of the second semester, by which time more than half had had to drop out to support themselves, leaving only a couple of rich people and some middle class women whose husbands were supporting them financially.
I reckon you're sometimes very out of touch with how the world has changed since you and I were young: I guess I'm lucky to have young adult grandchildren and can see how much harder it is for them than it was for me back then.
Why are you harassing me about this? I'm 100% with you up to the point of just giving away money to a bunch of kids so they can party for 4 years.
If someone really wants an education, then why shouldn't they have to work their asses off to achieve that goal? Why should it be free to all? The ones who have to work their way through will be much better for the country and the economy than a bunch of party animals with their worthless diplomas, don't you think?
Hard work to achieve your goals is not a bad thing, IMO.
Settle down mate, disagreeing with you isn't harassment!
Your assumption that students are just going to party for 4 years is a silly stereotype: I certainly wasn't partying when I was trying to get qualifications to get off government benefits but guess what? I couldn't support myself and study as well: I can't survive on benefits and you know what work I do to support myself, which is a choice I shouldn't have had to make. I would be much more useful to society as a qualified community family violence and sexual assault worker than listening to wankers at 60c a minute, wouldn't you agree? It would definitely be more rewarding for me as well as for the community.
In my opinion the education system as a whole is fucked both here and in other countries, including your own. Children of well off parents get to go to private schools and then on to university and end up with the well paying white collar jobs generally, except for kids who go into the trades, who of course are usually from working class backgrounds where there's no stigma about getting your hands dirty. That's what I suggested to one of my grandsons who'd wanted to go to uni and qualify as a journalist: he's now doing a pre-apprenticeship electricians course, but whether or not he actually gets an apprenticeship, time will tell.
Does the usa have a shortage of qualified tradespeople too? There's certainly one here and most of them charge like wounded bulls because there's more demand than supply.
Actually, I thought the phone work thing was just the uglies on here doing their usual bullshit, not that it is bad or offends me.
I am not referring to retraining or adult education, which the tech advances are forcing on the work force.
Young healthy people should learn the value of actually earning what they want, IMO. It's all so easy now. Mommy buys them their first phone and they don't even have do do chores at home any more. Oh yes, that computer must have is for school, right? And even free internet.
Every day we see posts from kids who have no self respect and only disdain for their folks, because they haven't had to earn anything in their lives.
I do believe the US has a major shortage of qualified and HONEST trades people and it is mainly because nobody wants to get their hands dirty. Nobody wants to WORK for their money.
Like the poster on here a few days back with no skills, yet is demanding a job at $15.00 an hour. What?
It's all fucked up and the only way out is going to be hard work. The rich sure ain't gonna want to pay to educate the peons who would then challenge the way things are. The US found that out in the 60's.
It does not weed out anyone. It goes by income. How poor or rich your parents are does not determine if you are going to party in college. A poor boy is not going to be more organized or focused than a rich kid. So if that is honestly the case its really a stupid way to do it. Also you are going under the assumption an 18 year out right out of HS really has a lot to give. They honestly dont have much really. Even if they get a job its going to be paying minimum wage.
Generations of Americans have worked their way through school. Why is it that in the last 20 years or so kids don't think they should have to?
Yeah, yeah, minimum wage, blah, blah, blah.
10 of us shared an old farmhouse so we could afford to live off campus. Summer jobs paid for most of the next year and our daily jobs during school made up the difference. School loans? What the fuck are those? back then. And don't say things are different. Maybe different wasn't necessarily better.
A summer job might be 6 X 12 hour shifts a week at an apple sauce cannery for $35.00 a week ($238.47 today). It was noisy, stinky and dangerous (no OSHA; people lost bits every now and then). Minimum wage? Yes please!
A couple weeks ago you said you didn't ever live in a house as an adult.
As for the rest, you're so out of touch with how things work now so just shut up. Nothing you have said here is correct or relevant.
They dont it just harder to support education on minimum wage in this day and age. The reason being cost of living has risen, cost of college has risen, and a lot of loans are restricted based on mom and dads income. In the past you could go to college without getting a school loan, but now a days its like in the 10,000s a year. Also I never seen a place that paid that much without a college education.
How do you figure nobody understands it? It's not that hard. Some people with special circumstances might find certain questions difficult but overall it's pretty straightforward and there is help available for those who need it. How did all these kids get in college if nobody can figure out the FAFSA? I think maybe you had trouble with it and are just assuming it's hard for others too.
Since people always say "Oh no getting money for college is easy, you just fill out fasfa and they will pay for it". Like they have no understanding how fasfa works and seem lost when people cant pay for college with just fasfa. A lot of people dont seem to understand its based on income or that at 18 you are not legally an independent. Im not the one who is stupid, its other people who keep saying horribly ignorant things.
If you think ppl would really find it helpful you should do it. Would you make a text file or a video?