Is it normal to hate societies attitude toward life in general?

Okay so im a 21 year old student in England and I feel extremely alone on my beliefs about life in general. Summed up, I am a huge fan of old Japan, I love reading old stories of the samurai on how respected they were and how respectable they were to others. It maybe a bit idealogical but to me they were disciplined, honourable, strong and would throw away their lives at any given moment for what they believed in. I genuinely admire these people and I try my best to follow their code of conduct by being all I can in todays world.

The strange thing is however I find most people are quite the opposite and any sense of what I call morals are extremely low or simply don't exist! I recently watched a TV show called "Skins" Which If you don't know, it is about a group of people that are constantly high, constantly sleeping around with each other and in general being extremely disgusting human beings.

They achieve nothing but pain for one another, they are lazy, rude, inconsiderate, thick, cheating is considered acceptable and makes good gossip, nearly ODing on drugs is funny to watch and funny to do. sleeping with your "best friends" girl is forgiven with "Im Sorry",and in perspective Adolf Hitler was probably seen as a little bit naughty !!!! I would say it is a very very exaggerated version of society and is in my mind really disturbing. Now I don't dislike the program because at times it is really funny and some of the disturbing behaviour i mentioned is quite entertaining to watch. What absolutely amazed me though was when I went to see some reviews and other peoples comments online, googles results where flooding with things like "how to be like xxxx from skins" and how people are idolising these characters?

I was genuinely shocked to read this because to me these characters being portrayed were funny because they were so stupid !!! It makes me sick to think people admire them and are treating them as role models? I am probably coming across very up-tight and sound boring as hell but the fact is i'am sexually active, in the past i have done a heap of drugs and done a lot of stupid things. I go out a lot and have lot fun with friends. I have been in a lot of extreme situations and from my experiences I have learnt. I don't do drugs anymore but I have no problem with people that do so long as they are not causing harm to others. I don't think there is anything wrong with having sex with other people so long as you are not hurting anyone and overall I consider myself polite, truthful, and very respectful. One moral I have which is a real issue for me is "Not cheating". It seems a lot of people don't consider it that bad but for me it is just sooo extreme you wouldn't believe. If someone had intentionally slept with one of my ex girl friends when we were together I would be looking for blood. If it honestly came to it and someone raped or beat her up I would probably kill them, and i can honestly say that with a straight face. To some that will sound really psychotic but it actually Physically sickens me!!

The main point I am trying to make, is that why the hell do most people and most media idolise stupid people? Why is having an affair so normal for most people? Why are people that appear on such shows as Jeremy Kyle and Jerry Springer considered to be so acceptable? Lazy pieces of crap, milk the system dry by having kids at 12, and we as a society put them on television, give them a shit load of money and label them celebrities?

I am aware I sound really old but I seriously agree more so with older generations than I ever do with my own. I am a caring person without a doubt and selfishly I have probably stuck to my morals because I couldn't handle that much emotional pain. I really do want to hear what you all have to say on this subject. Thankyou very much for reading and I would really appretiate any comments you have, especially if you dis-agree.

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  • dappled

    Attitudes change. My mother's generation idolised the famous and never felt they could belong to a world peopled by the obscenely talented. The famous were untouchable.

    I think my generation was the first to grow cynical about celebrity, particularly here in England. Dennis Pennis is a good example, a spoof journalist who didn't play along with the fawning that was going on. Everyone at home, watching an interview with a film star who'd just made an atrocious film, could see a sycophantic interviewer pretend it's exciting and wonderful and everyone needs to see it. We groaned inwardly at how facile the lie was. Good old Dennis wasn't that kind of interviewer, though.

    It was one thing to do it with our own TV stars, it was another to do it with Hollywood stars, who are global royalty. I'll never forget Dennis Pennis asking Michael Jackson (who had just become a father), "So, Mike, do you want any more children, or are you afraid of being arrested again?" It was calculated to disarm and demean and (in a way) bully. As was the attack on Tom Cruise with the water in the face. Yet the prevailing mood (after shock) was pretty much a growing culture of "Ooh, we're allowed to tell them what we think now". This was about the time of the rise of the paparazzi (in the form you and I know them). It's also the time Big Brother started.

    Very early on in reality TV, producers realised that while the viewing public had an interest in humiliating celebs, there was probably even greater interest in letting stupid people humiliate themselves, allowing the viewing public some measure of superiority over these poor ingrates who think "East Angular" is a foreign country. It's a consensual freak show.

    Lines between reality and drama are a little blurry. Are the people on TOWIE really that stupid? It must be scripted? Mustn't it? Skins is also stylised almost as an ideal lifestyle. It's a magazine programme. I remember a journalist saying Skins is what you pretend youth was, and The Inbetweeners is what it actually was. I agree with that. Interestingly, how often do you get people wanting to be Will, Simon, Jay or Neil? It doesn't happen. Nobody aspires to it because everybody recognises we're already it.

    But whether it's TOWIE, Skins, Geordie Shore, Desperate Scousewives, or Peter Andre showcasing his crushingly boring idiot life (actually, worse, Natalie Cassidy doing the same), it's presented as aspirational. As if this is what we could achieve if only we looked right and were moronic enough. Ten years ago, in a forum I was part of, I made a joke about Natalie Cassidy one day releasing a dancercise video. I was being sardonic. Not so many years later, it happened. I'm also the person who turned to his sister the first time we heard Wannabe by the Spice Girls and ask, "Is this a joke?" I thought it must be, because it wasn't music. At this point, I'm going to predict that the dog of someone out of reality TV is going to have its own show within five years and that when the dog dies, it'll be front page on all the red tops: "Nation Mourns Mitzi".

    I feel as badly as you about all this but I was stupid enough to laugh along at the steps which got us here. The public gets what the public wants. Kind of makes me ashamed to be one of the public. The only saving grace is the BBC. I know it makes crap too, but it's also made pretty much all of the best television I've ever seen in my life. Little gems, not the stuff we export or will ever export. Things that people in other countries couldn't ever conceive of being made. The type of thing that makes you feel more intelligent just from watching it. How often can you say that about television?

    To finish on a downer - everything is a rung on a ladder - if Skins is where we are now, imagine what's next? And next? And next?

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    • Anon_123

      Thankyou very much for such a detailed comment. I am actually studying both film and television and I am all to aware of the way in which the media and public interact. And Yes! It is very much a scary thought considering what the future has yet to bring? Hopefully more people will catch on and suddenly this attitude will get flipped. Something like what the sixties did for music. Thanks Again

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      • dappled

        Weirdly, I was thinking about this in bed this morning when I woke up and you've mirrored my thoughts about the sixties. That was partially a response to the austerity of the forties and fifties. Yet the austerity of the seventies led to a very different picture with a massively greedy eighties. I wonder why way our current austerity will affect the future. I'd quite like to experience what the sixties were like so I'd hope for that.

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        • Anon_123

          Could be quite cool

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  • jondoerandom

    Dude, you don't sound weird, you sound awesome!

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  • joybird

    I've never watched Skins but I do remember watching Grange Hill and thinking that schools like that couldn't possibly exist as I went to a traditional grammar school where they still wore robes, and we all stood up when a teacher came into the room.

    I also hope that society returns to basic respect and manners - although I don't see how it ever can :o(

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    • Anon_123

      Thanks for your comment... If you got that impression from grange hill then watching skins in the same perspective will make you feel like an alien... The strange thing is that you will see it for what it is, as in designed for entertainment, the program itself isn't what i would call over the top taboo or pushing the censor limits... I think the scary bit about the whole thing is when you realise just how many people see it as a documentary instead of what it is? How many people treat it as a reality... To me its frighning but hopefully one day ppl will wake up

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