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I for one am fed up of certain trolls on here creating a new account every time their user gets banned so they can continue to troll, and in some cases, sexually harass other users
It is too easy. I just tried making a new account as a test, and you don't even need a valid email address. It takes 1 minute.
Can we please enforce IP bans so these trolls have no access to this website in their home or under their bridge.
Agree?
| Yes | 39 | |
| No | 27 |
It isn't even an issue. I don't know why it's so difficult for some of you to simply ignore the obvious trolling, considering the majority of trolls will spend about 5 minutes on this site and never come back. Calm down.
The only "trolls" whom created multiple accounts (and are hated) appear to be me -- and before me, it was Crysades. Who really had to create about 7 in a month.
My bullshit was petty. Getting defensive about having two accounts and receiving notices of bitching about opposing views and opinions, not trolling. Trolling is much more negative, as is the connotation of a "troll". People really should care less, apparently it IS ip unique. Unless you're trolling and actually know the fact that it's not, first hand.
The only time I see it as an issue, is when people stalk each other, to down-vote. It takes awhile to have the thumb-down ability. Even if someone has 20 accounts, recently created, you can only upvote. Not a bad thing. When users go for the jugular and attack looks, someone personally...it's a problem. Otherwise you will just appear to be frustrated with people who have different views and talk to themselves or create a new account. Bans are a warning, people like Crysades do not care. He/she will continue to use the site -- and that's not an issue. Harassment is the only issue people should truly care about, if they actually do. These posts lamenting over users are silly. Why the f*k do people care so much and not just move on/thumb-down or simply ignore a "troll". It only empowers them when you make their behavior a spectacle.
I voted no because a lot of trolls who would get banned wouldn't deserve to get banned. I'd rather be annoyed by some idiots than unfair to innocent pranksters.
I picked no because the more the merrier and you're maybe taking this site a bit too seriously, trolls are just people.
Trolls are one thing, but those who repeatedly get banned are far worse than trolls.
Trust me, it's hard to get Udi to ban a user. They'd have to be pretty rotten.
I think the idea of getting rid of annoying trolls who post things just to hurt others is great but actually carrying it through is way too complicated, so it's easiest to stay aware that some comments don't have your best interests in mind and that some people out there find it fun to hurt random strangers.
I vote no because it would not be fair. If trolls go then the people who banter with them should have to go too.
Actually, the only reason why trolls keep coming back is because the holier than thou complex some users here have. They viciously attack trolls and their only defense is "they did it to me (or someone else) first".
Stop feeding the trolls if you don't want them to keep coming back, I say.
But then some people who aren't trolls (or at least not harmful trolls) could be banned because somebody got offended by them and reported them.
its a loose loose situation. do we keep the trolls and let them continue trolling or do we ban them but also ban the innocent with them?
But if you really think about it, trolls aren't the problem - it's the people who feed them. If they could control themselves long enough the trolls would leave and the funny harmless ones would stick around because, it's not their goal to incite conflict. Win-win.
trolls can bring a lively atmosphere, even the arguing is sometimes funny.. dont ban just ignore if you must
I like this site because of the lack of PC but I do remember that one guy who kept posting 'suck my dick' every were it was so annoying going through 10 notices only to find out they were all 'suck my dick'.
I said no for a few reasons.
1. Even with an IP ban someone can use another device, or even change their IP address. There are programs that automatically change you IP every few minutes and they are not difficult to obtain.
2. Complaining about trolls is completely troll bait. People attract them by being over sensitive to their harassment. It's the internet and unless they are sending you viruses or stalking you to the point of disrupting your personal life, they cannot really do anything at all. Some people will purposely upset others, simply because their victims set themselves up to be vulnerable. I have never been harassed online and if I was it wouldn't bother me unless they started sending viruses and effecting my personal life, in which case I would simply press charges on them, but they would really have to cross the line for me to care.
IP bans can easily be circumvented, but it would be nice to know that there's *something* actually happening to these users.
I agree, I'm tired of dumb, childish troll stories about people pooping on each other or having sex with your sister.
Completely agree, I've been harassed by at least 3 users who I think are the same person, I reported and nothing gets done, and even if it does they come back on another account.
The thing with this issue is I like the idea in spirit, but I only agree with it to a certain extent.
I think we take for granted here on IIN that the rules are somewhat loose and that you can, need be, create a new account. And I think if we straight up start IP banning people, it might turn ugly as more and more people are banned. That might lead to people being banned for insignificant reasons and there may be more tension among management and users. I believe that an IP ban should only be enforced when there are extreme cases. You know, once in a GREAT while, and that's about it.
How about having to submit 3 stories or wait 48 hours before commenting, so that we don't have an influx of racist/homophobic/hateful/troll cowards using their account to anonymously post their rubbish instead.
Internet Protocol (IP) Address otherwise known as a IP ADDRESS it is what allows you to connect to the internet.
as for the topic at hand IP Blocks are useless as it can get around by:
{a} using another computer or wireless divice (mobile phone etc,)
(b) Proxy Server
i should know as i myself have websites myself and have ip addresses blocked but it does not stop them coming on to my websites by using a proxy.
I agree in the use of IP banning, however there is the possibility that what you consider someone to be doing as trolling is just them explaining their thoughts...? I think a good system would be for mods to look into that accounts previous comments/posts and check to see if that person just made a joke on the wrong post at the wrong time, or is actually a troll or whatever they're called. give them a trail to explain themselves and why they shouldn't be banned in a live chatroom broadcasting to all on the website, prosecuted by the reporter and judged by mods, defendant is the reportee in question.
Yyyyyeah...
If they can't be bothered with decent upkeep of the site, they aren't even going to take five seconds to actually go through a person's account. I have it in writing from TheManagement that he doesn't care what the problem was in a certain situation, he would just ban whoever. He's too busy to worry about IIN.
I have been on this site on and off for a long ass time and I don't think I have ever really seen a troll.. I see people leaving hateful comments YES! but most of the time that's the users who's been here forever lol You're asking for a opinion of others don't be so shocked when you get some hate.
I don't understand why in everyday life we reinforce laws to protect people, but we don't do that on the internet.
Why should the law be different here so perverts and bullies somehow prevail and imagine that they are superior. Why can't we prosecute in the same way we would if these people were still perverts and bullies as we know they are?
ive only just joined the site and was immediately abused by people who hadn't even read my post properly.there were spelling and grammer mistake.but over all the post was easy to follow.but some very tiny minded people read what they wanted to see.not what was actually there so I agree wholeheartedly.
I think we could lose the dead weight. It's just holding this site back.
notice how THE MANAGEMENT has not made a comment here? it means that they don't take this idea seriously. Nobody is such the cunt as Charli.m (the OP) to consider this.
I can guarantee she isn't OP. She's asleep. It's 4am. The OP replied around 3am. She went to sleep at 12 and won't be up til 6. That's what you call good P.I. work.
I wouldn't vote to ban you either, I think its important to get a full cross section of people on the website so that the experience of actually coming here doesn't dull over time.
You represent the "tool" section. You know the guys that got laid a little bit at one point in their life but didn't realize it was actually the peak of their life until it blew right past em. And now they are filled with denial about it. You know what I mean, you probably met a decent woman but either didn't recognize her for who she is and/or treated her like garbage and she left. You regret doing that, buy can't admit it even to yourself. So you make it up for with this pseudo macho male image you portray here.
Yeah we don't want you going anywhere. At least I certainly don't, keep up the good work.