Is it normal....get rid of bullies

how to get rid of school bullies in a public school in the city....they don't do a lot of physical abuse but they do a lot of verbal stuff and throw things like at lunch...i'm not a snitch so telling a teacher/staff member is out of the question i'm not scared of them but i'm not a fighter i only fight when i have too i'm pretty much a good person i don't mess with anyone i stay to myself. I just want to know what should i do about this.

fight all of them 33
just wait to someone get out of line 14
stay to yourself and say nothing 17
get a weapon and threaten them 7
call them all b*****s and sl**s then hit them 11
other (explain) 31
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  • NeuroNeptunian

    I don't see why no one ever suggests that school officials attempt to provide psychological treatment to THE BULLY. Obviously something has to be wrong in a kid's head to make them feel the need to degrade others to assure their self esteem.

    Believe it or not, bullies are children too and I don't think that anything will be done about bullying until everyone acknowledges that. Empowering the victims, punishing the bully, all just treatments of symptoms rather than targeting the ailment itself which is the bully.

    I am coming from the perspective of a former bully myself up until middle school. I was abused as a child and in my household, hitting and putting others down is just how it was done. I didn't even understand why I was being punished and none of my teachers ever bothered to inquire as to why I misbehaved and this is the case for many bulllies. They are often either ignored, beaten or over-indulged at home and rather than going the route of the introvert and retreating into themselves they take their anger out on the world.

    Chances are, those bullies that you are experiencing fit those categories. If speaking to them like a reasonable person does not work then I would suggest reporting them. That's the best you can do until the school system realizes that punishment is not the same as a cure.

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    • nAt2017

      I agree. I'm sorry that you had to grow up the way that you did.

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    • I was bullied as a child to a severe rate. They did not punish the students misbehaving only me for lashing out. They told me since people attacked me it was my fault and they encouraged the harrasement since I was new. The whole group of kids started hitting and pushing and pulling my hiar and when they asked happened the othwe kids told the caretaker I said "hell". I was 11 and that was considered a bad wird so they only punished me not them for attacking. The rules are help the mojority and sometimes they are not always victums.

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      • KeddersPrincess

        The assistant principal we had was an ass-hole. He never did anything about the situation and was strong under the foolsih belief that kids will be kids"". I myself was bullied when I was 11 too, and the girl who started the bullying turned the entire school and me. It extremely severe and I suffered a lot of depression because of it. They also bullied my best friend, having spread several rumors about us, and it ruined our friendship that year. And she was the only friend I had.

        I definatly get what you mean by, the adults not doing anything about the situation because the teachers we had could care less which, in turn, only made things worse. Which is why I support serious punishment for these kids because the only way they will learn is from a consequence to their actions.

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    • KeddersPrincess

      I'm agreeing with what you say. They should have some kind of counseloring for these kids because most bullies do come from a home in which they were mistreated or they have struggles on their own, but at the same time, I think they should also be punished. Just like if I were to go to a Walmart and open gunfire because I had a troubled child hood and violence is all I know, I would still have to be put behind bars, a bully should have to suffer a consequence for his action. I was bullied terribly in school by a girl who was having issues with her father at home. I don't know what the issues were, but she brought it to school, and everyday she made sure my life was a miserable Hell. It's sad what her life was but, at the same time, it was no excuse for what she did to me and my best friend. She happened to be one of the popular crowd, and she turned the entire school on me and my best friend.

      Clearly, this young lady needed some therapy, but that does not change the fact that she needed some punishment too. I don't believe that she should get away with doing what she did because of her issues at home. I'm a strong believer in "You can't do the time don't do crime" and this young lady definatly needed some kind of "time" for the hell she brought to me and my friend.

      Yes; I do agree with you on the terms that these kids need someone to talk to them and guide them, but at the same time, they need some punishment so that they can know that their actions are not okay and there is a consequence for them.

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      • NeuroNeptunian

        I didn't say that they shouldn't be punished. My point was that punishment wasn't some magical cure.

        And opening fire at a wal mart is not bullying. It's attempted murder. Two totally different subjects.

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        • KeddersPrincess

          Okay. I'm not trying to be offensive. I just didn't understand exactly what you were saying. I agree with your point by the way. I think it is a very good idea, and if it were up to me, it would be enforced in schools immediatly. I just didn't know if you agreed with punishment or not, is all.

          The gun fire thing was an analogy.

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          • NeuroNeptunian

            I understand the analogy, but that's waaaaayyyy off the mark. No reasonable person would advocate that a gunman would not be punished.

            My only problem with punishment alone is that, well, for my case and I know that I can't be alone, I was being punished but I really did not understand why anyone was angry, I thought my behavior was normal. I have no problem with punishing wrongdoing but punishment alone won't help. I think that bullying is another manifestation of depression/anxiety/OCD but often times those children are ignored by people that believe that depression/anxiety etc. only manifests itself in the textbook or TV show type ways.

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            • KeddersPrincess

              I agree with that. I think it should be the two; not only should they be given counceloring but they should also be punished and told why they are punished. I don't know your situation, but the girl that bullied me knew very well what she was doing and she knew it was wrong as well. She was very proud of herself and very well old enough to know better. This girl needed some therapy, of course, and I know she had a situation with her father that led her to make the decisions she made, but she still needed to be taught that hurting other people isn't the way around, as it only leads to more kids being hurt in the process.

              You're right, these kids definatly need to be given some help and punishment on the side of that.

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          • I never shot up the school but I had plans to and my caretakers let the kids pick on me and I was left alone and neglected. The only reason they told another childs parents was tge fact my mother called but after they just humiliated me infront of the other kids and made me look like a idiot.

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          • They need to punish kids who pushed the child to shoit up the school they need to stop the issue befire it happens and the do not! They let it go till someone gets shot and wonder why the kid killed everyone. They need to prosucute atackers not the victem driven to madness. I was that neglected child and my dad had access to guns. I was a sweet kid as a child but I was shy and diffrent and those taking care of me like school and carecenter neglected me and we made a anarchy ran by children.

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          • Also that kid shooting up the school is for the most a billied kid who lost it. Often schools do not stop a bully so we get a victem that turns into a monster. Its like a abused animal that escapes and starts killing people and often they got horrible treatment before hand. The phrase "mess with the bull get the horns". People like to follow the crowd by picking and tuanting the bull and after if one or madadors die are you suprised?

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    • UhhhOK

      This won.^

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  • dom180

    The first thing you have to do is get rid of the mentality that being a "snitch" is wrong. Why shouldn't you tell a teacher if someone's making you feel bad? Because of some ridiculous unwritten rule made up by bullies to make the kids they abuse feel more helpless?

    The second thing you need to do is tell a teacher. I would suggest trying to get help for the bully as well as for the kids they bully, but you don't have that kid of power really :/

    Don't fight them though. That makes you as low as them.

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    • NeuroNeptunian

      When it comes to bullying, I prefer the term "whistle-blower" over snitch. Snitching is when you are tattling concerning a situation that is none of your business, or tattling to cover your own arse.

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  • KeddersPrincess

    If I could go back to the 6xt grade where that evil bitch Casey used to bully me, I would do what I now know I should've done during the time...kick her ass. Everyday I ask myself why I didn't just do it. She made my life a living hell, and had no regret for it either. I told the teachers about it, and they never did a thing. They didn't care. They just sat back under the ignorant belief "Kids will be kids." But if I could, I would kick her ass. I would kick her ass for every bitchy thing she did and said to me and my best friend. I would kick her ass and every single girl friend that backed her up.

    They teach these kids in school to tell a teacher if they're being bullied. But bullies are bad-ass little bastard kids and they don't care what the teacher can do to them. And 9 times out of 10 the teacher doesn't give a shit, either. But when they get their asses embarressed in front of a bunch of their friends by the "weak" person, things change.

    I say, kick the little bastards asses, and the bully should be free to do that without consequence. Maybe after the third time of reporting the incident to the teacher, and if no change is made, then the kid has the right to fight. Case closed.

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  • mightymouse

    1. There are many types of bully, but a very common one is those motivated by having power over someone else... the ability to make the other person have a reaction makes them feel powerful. Often it because there are areas in their lives where they feel powerless, and may have been shown in some way that making others feel bad is an easy form of power.

    2. You can deal with these kinds of bullies several ways. Most important is to not let it bother you. The opposite of love is not hate.. it's indifference.

    3. So just don't react... they say something, don't say a word back, or if you have to say something, say: "this does not interest me", shrug your shoulders and ignore them. Feel free to smile at them momentarily like they just told a great joke, and then ignore them.

    4. If they persist, just tell them you have better things to do, and they can move on to someone else. Never show ANY negative emotion. Showing a negative emotion encourages them.

    5. Keeping the above up will make them lose interest.. why would they waste their effort if they got ZERO reaction from you. In the RARE occasion where this doesn't work, decide who the ring leader of a given bully group is, and catch him when he's alone. Tell him he needs to stop or you'll catch him alone again and that you are not afraid of him. His friends won't always be around him, and even if they beat you... someday he'll be alone, and you'll fight him.

    6. Even if you think he'll win, and even if he does, it doesn't matter. The fact is that it's unlikely someone will want to fight you without witnesses or friends, and there will be a little fear in them: why would you want to fight him? It's very off putting.

    NOTE: The above advice is from someone who has experienced being bullied, and has also experienced dealing with them in the above manners.

    Rise above it, and also realize that it may be the bane of your life now, but later you'll hardly remember it. It's just not important.

    NOTE: Some more advice on this topic that comes from a different angle and could also be helpful is another post I wrote here:

    http://isitnormal.com/story/is-it-normal-to-be-rejected-by-your-own-ethnicity-in-school-135049/comment-1287256

    Good luck!

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  • NothingxCrazy

    Don't be afraid of them. They really feed off of that.

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  • Justsomejerk

    What, am I the only one thinking massacre?

    Seriously though, if you do t want to tell on them just ignore them and know that they will probably be unsuccessful in life.

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  • You can do two things. Try to solve it peacefully by talking to them in a way NeuroNeptunian explained, or you just smile. They hate that.

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  • Do they say "nice pants, why do you wear them up to your tits?"

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    • Seustewart

      Asshole!

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      • dude_Jones

        TommyTheCat is intelligent but deranged. Your response to him was a good test. You held your ground, but you seemed rattled. You could have said, "You gotta a problem with pants?" Or, you could completely turn your back like they don't exist.

        Suggestions are needed folks.

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        • Seustewart

          I'm not rattled. I just have a low tolerance for stupidity. :)

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          • dude_Jones

            In that case a good response would have been, "I have a low tolerance for stupidity, eat shit."

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            • Seustewart

              Go fuck yourself

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  • fdjones1

    kick them in the balls

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  • 1000yrVampireKing

    I pick A! Actually that will not work since the idiots are already to brain damaged to understand what not to do anymore. Trap them and implant a chip that will make the brain melt.

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  • Terence_the_viking

    rub dirty knickers in their faces

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  • somebody23

    1: say that if they wont stop u will beat theyr shit outta them. 2L if they start laughing kick them in their dic*/ if girl pull her hair or hit in stomack, 3: if none work get a knife. dont forget to call the bitches, trust me it doesn't work anyhow else. I know this from personal experience

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  • Seustewart

    In fact, If u live near me I'll gladly take care of the bully for you.

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  • Seustewart

    I'm not saying to fight the bullies just because it happened to work for me. Maybe I just got lucky. In high school I filled in a became a pretty big guy myself. That along with being on the wrestling team, football team and boxing gave me confidence to take a stand. To this very day if I see someone being bullied or even hear about if, I get Involvec one way or another. Good luck. Cheers.

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  • Seustewart

    Cont'd
    I was bullied when I was younger. I've since kicked the asses of some of those bullies. One guy was a HUGE muscle bound dude who became a member of a local bike gang. He saw me years later and thought he'd still bully me in front of his biker friends. Sure I was scared but he offered me the first punch after pushing me around for a bit. I had to get one punch cuz I was gonna get my ass kicked regardless. I tried to punch him in the face but I couldnt reach and ended up punching him in the throat. He dropped to his knee and had trouble breathing. I was gonna run cus I figured he or his friends are gonna kick the living shit outa me. But I didn't run. It was now or never. So I punched and punched over and over (cuz he still couldn't catch his breath) til his biker friends pulled me off him. I thought they were gonna kick my ass but instead they laughed at this mountain of a man cus he just got beat up by little guy of 1/2 his size. One of the bikers grabbed me & whispered "get the fuck outa here. The prick deserved that". I then ran like a sonofabitch. Lol. Best day of my life! After that, nobody really messed with me much and that same guy and his buddies actually defended me in a bar one night, just by their huge presence.

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  • Seustewart

    When I was in school I always defended people against bullies. I can't even remember how many fights I was in. Blues are weak people who are tryin to make up for some problem they have themselves. Some are just plain assholes. Here's what you do: if you have the $$$$: find the biggest baddest dude in school and pay him (privately) to watch your back. Or volunteer as a towel washed etc for the football or wrestling team. They'll have your back. Once the bullies see that you're friends with these guys they'll change their mind about messing with you.

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  • Devilsno1angel

    Ive bn there try to ignore thm and if tht doesnt work take down the biggest one outside school with there friends watching some bullys leave it when ther ignored some dnt if they choose to keep on bullying they need to know ure not a doormat gd luck x

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  • Hyper576

    Even though you're not a snitch (as you mentioned), you /should/ tell a trusted adult about this. If you're so (extremely) shy about it, well, there's nothing much you can do if you're not a fighter. Just ignore them.

    Your options are pretty much:

    1. Tell a trusted adult (teacher, parent, principal, etc.)

    2. Fight (argue or physical)

    3. Ignore them

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    All up to you though. I'm not really good with advice (on bullying) but take my word for it. It's the best idea to tell a trusted adult about this.

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    • somebody23

      thats stupid and never gonna work...

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  • imagirldealwithit123

    ok there was a bully in 5th grade that was hitting a 4th grader and he was in my class so i pulled the bully of and said ''your bullying cause you just want freinds and you know what? you will never get any'' so the he pushed me agenst the lokers and bi--h slaped me ....painful...

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  • Beerminator1

    The only way to get rid of bullies is to fight them! If you try to ignore them or you tell your teacher, it won't work. You have to show them that they can't push you around. Everytime they come bully you, talk back and you should challenge them into a fight. If there are many of them, challenge the one that bothers you the most. You should say something like: "Lets see tough you are without your friends" or anything to point out how pathetic he is without his friends. Even if you lose the fight, they probably will leave you alone. If don't, keep on until they do.

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  • Corleone

    None of those things! Don't physically fight them, there's more of them and you'll probably lose. And especially don't bring a weapon. It can be used against you, or you can accidentally hurt someone terribly and land up in jail.

    Show that you don't care what they're saying. Ask them if they haven't got anything better to do. Tell them that they're impressing no one, and that they wouldn't even bully you if they were on their own. These kids are just harassing you in a sad attempt to look 'cool' in front of their friends.

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  • Lynxikat

    I personally say we should just put all the bullies on an island and nuke 'em, but obviously, that isn't realistic since we're saving our nukes for... well, I'm not sure what.

    But seriously, you should tell a teacher that you're being bullied.

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  • Well as I friend of many assholes in hs I can honestly say if you snitch they'll hate your guts but if you ignore and don't fight back they'll continue to do it. I would warn them tell them to knock it off or you'll tell or tell your teacher but ask they don't reveal who told. I can't speak for all hs jerks just the ones I know, but most aren't mean they are just really stupid and think its funny to poke fun.

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  • davesumba

    none of the school's i've been to had any bullies. i wish i could beat some bullies asses though or verbally subdue them muahahaha

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    • davesumba

      actually one person was being an ass to me, so i flipped his hat off his head, then he was like DONT DO THAT. then he continued to be an ass so i did it again, he tried to slap me, but i blocked it and clocked him in the face, that solved that problem

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      • imagirldealwithit123

        nice ^-^

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  • Shrunk

    Well I don't know if this is the same as ''bullies'' cus we didn't use that word so freely as kids these days, but it depends I guess... sometimes I wished I had confronted the people like that, I kinda did once, and since i knew one of their friends that person stood up for me and made them stop. The other way I did was being passive aggressive I guess you would call it... but I figured the only sure way is to ignore it, because by getting upset youre only letting them win. unless youre good at fighting and want that sort of reputation.

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  • Silivrin1

    You could trying to be diplomatic and fair, and try to talk to them, but they might not listen. If you just let them do it they won't stop. If you fight back it will get worse. If you try to be witty or difficult it will get worse.

    If you really want to solve the problem you have to talk to someone about it. Get over the idea that your reputation is so important that telling an adult about it would be bad. What about getting an authority to "bring justice", as it were, is a bad idea? You're not weak or scared if you do that, you're SMART, and you're the better person in every way.

    There is no other way to solve your problem, so don't put up silly barriers for yourself.

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  • Darkoil

    If they say something just comeback at them with a witty comeback and show them who's boss or just laugh at them.

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