Is it normal for a child to have considerably older friends?

The child in question is a nine year old boy. He is bright, funny, and gregarious, with some natural leadership skills. He gets along fine with other kids his own age, but he prefers to hang out with kids who are eleven and twelve, and even thirteen.

It doesn't seem so odd, perhaps, when he is hanging out with eleven or even twelve year old boys, especially as they share common interests. But the thirteen year old is a girl, which I personally find a bit odd.

I always thought girls were supposed to be more mature than boys. I can't think of any older girls who wanted to hang around with a boy four years younger than themselves, when I was a child. This girl calls the boy her "best friend," but she is often quite callous and even somewhat cruel to him. He often comes home angry or upset after interacting with her, and they seem to spend most of their time together bickering.

I feel it is an unhealthy relationship, and the girl should be focusing on girls and boys closer to her own age. Am I being "agist," sexist, or otherwise delusional? I would appreciate hearing others' perspectives. Thanks for your time.

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  • Charmo

    To answer the initial question, is it normal for a child to have older friends: I would say yes. Most of my friends were 2 or 3 years older when I was growing up, and the reason I preferred hanging out with them as opposed to kids my own age was because I felt closer in maturity to them. However, if this girl is treating him badly, then that in not a good thing, regardless of their age difference.

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    • gryphon70

      Thank you for your thoughtful response! I think you are right, and the real issue that I am concerned about is that the girl in question seems not to be a good friend. I suppose I'm more concerned as to her behaviour, as it seems quite immature, even more immature than my son's, and more immature than many other children's much younger than her.

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    • Allistalla

      yes this is normol ,it proboly means he is more mature than most kids his age so he would prefere the older children and if he is smart enough and freindly enough thier no wonder why the older children would dislike him and generally older kids find smaller kids cute alot of the time .

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      • Allistalla

        Or he is under the impression they are cooler cuase they are older , little kids often get this impression .

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  • PrincessLollipop

    I'm 22 and even though I have friends my age, I tend to enjoy spending time with my older friends. I actually like them so much more! I find them very wise, inspirational, & just plain awesome! : )

    The only thing I don't find normal about your story is that his friend is mean to him. Idk why he would want to hang out with someone who makes him upset!!! :(

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    • gryphon70

      Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Yes, that is one of my concerns, that this girl doesn't seem to be a good friend. It has occurred to me that the question I really should have asked was "Is it normal for a thirteen year old girl to only want to associate with younger children, and to be the least mature one in the group"!

      As for why the little chap wants to hang around her, I think that it is mostly because she is older, and friends with two of his older friends.

      I think we will focus on the issue of how friends should treat each other in talking with my boy, and not stress the age issue.

      Thank you again!

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      • PrincessLollipop

        No problem! : )

        Another thought I had was that maybe your son is just more mature & can relate to older children. I have a niece that is 8 and another that's just turned 12 & it's astonishing because the 8 year old is far more mature then the older one. She gravitates to spending more time with myself & other adults while the 12 year old would rather spend time with the youngsters.

        And yes, that sounds like a great idea. It's hard to be a kid because you think everyone is your friend. It's only when you become an adult that you realize 99.9% of the people you have called your friends were FAR from it.

        He sounds like a great kid & i'm sure he will figure it out, especially while having great parental support from yourself.

        Take care!! <33

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  • DavidS.

    You say they spend most of their time bickering...that he comes home upset after interacting with her ....and that she is callous and cruel...sounds like marriage to me

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  • Mike914914

    Hey she's hanging out probably because she wants to suck his cock and do anything and hey when I was 9 I had a older women let me rub her tits and I loved it and she did to and we did lots of things but got better as I grew. If she's 13 and wants to suck Dick the 9yr old will love it. Let him lay back and watch a girls suck him. If my son was fucking a young girl. I would probably watch and maybe get nasty. Omg the things I did at 9 and 13

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  • moni**

    I had a 9 years old friend when I was 12 yo because everyone in my middle school made fun of me and anyone my age wanted to be friend with me.
    But I know that I couldn't speak with her like she was my age.

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  • disfunkshinal

    I know you don't want to hear this, but there may be something wrong but undiagnosed in the girl. She sounds like she is maturing at an alarmingly slow pace and very well could be emotionally disturbed. I suggest you talk to her parents about her behavior and let them know what goes on during the day.

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  • kittymacat

    I remember wen I was in kindy or year 1 I used to hang with year 5 and 6...... I've always preferred older friends because they seem less judging. But if the older girl is being mean then I would ask her to stop. The young boy may have developed a bond with her

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  • Avant-Garde

    I think it's normal. I'm in my late teens and I have friends in their mid-twenties. I've had acquaintances that have been about 20-30 years older then me and there was no harm that came to it. I think knowing someone who's lived Slightly longer than you can help to give a person a better understanding of the world.

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  • mynameisNORMAL

    He is probably more mature than other kids his age. He just wants to find the right crowd.

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  • munkeemurder

    Ive always gotten along better with people that are either younger or older then me. Mostly older. For some reason Ive always found it kind of hard to get along with people my own age. Im 25 now and I feel more relaxed and easier to be around people that are much older then I am. Id rather hang out with someone whos in their 30s-40s, 50s even, then hang out with someone in my age group.

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  • la_la_la_la

    Hiya,

    My friends have mostly been older too. When we see each other we can chat for hours about some blues band we both like –- but put me in a room full of people my own age & I wouldn't have a clue what to say.

    Friends come & go so hopefully this girl will be out of his life soon.

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    • gryphon70

      Thank you for taking the time to reply. In thinking it over, I realised my wife and I have friends with a broad range of ages, as well. I suppose it is somewhat of a double standard to feel that is desirable in an adult, but a concern in a child.

      The bigger concern for me, really, is the older girl's behaviour, and the fact that my son seems to wind up essentially having to be the more mature one. When my daughter was this girl's age, she was nothing like this girl, so the behaviour is not anything I can relate to or know is just part of the normal spectrum of thirteen year old girl behaviour.

      The fact that the girl seems to constantly come up with inappropriate ideas, and that she tries to get into fist fights with the boys (including my son) is my main concern. Yes, I do hope my son quickly outgrows her. However, if the bad behaviour and what I perceive as bullying continue, I feel I should intercede and limit their interactions.

      Thanks again for your response.

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      • la_la_la_la

        Hiya,

        No problem. I think people place too much store on ages, when what they should be focusing on is the strength of the friendships they've actually got. This one doesn't sound worth having.

        I'm thankful for my experiences now because I can be happy on my own, I find a common ground with most people &amp; have lots of interests –- a lot of people my age just don't. I had a pen pal for ages who was in his 40s who used to send me tapes &amp; I was gutted when we lost contact.

        Are you called “Gryphon” because you like them??

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  • Shackleford96

    Maybe he has a crush on her? A love-hate relationship maybe? I don't have any children though, so I probably won't be much help, sorry.

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    • gryphon70

      He does have another girl, who is eight, with whom he has the sort of relationship you describe. They bicker and argue, but alternately can be close friends. However, in the case of the thirteen-year-old, I am not sure.

      You bring up something to consider, and I'll consult my wife and see what she thinks. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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      • Shackleford96

        No problem.

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  • YngPoly

    The thing to consider about your 9 year old liking zombie movies and things like that is younger brothers usually have a case of "I wanna be like big brother" syndrome. Especially If there is more than a years gap. What ever big bro thinks is "cool" you can bet little brother will be right there too. It's normal

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    • gryphon70

      Yes, I agree with you again. He definitely wants to copy his big brother and his older mates. I think that's where he has even become aware of some of these films and games.

      I do think some of them are too intense and not appropriate for a boy of nine. For example, games like Bioshock and Bioshock II, the Resistance Series, the Silent Hill games, etc. He puts up less of a fuss about being forbidden to play certain games than he does about films and scary books.

      My concern was that he gets extremely scared and sometimes rather upset about the scary stuff. If he was taking it all in stride, that would be one thing. The usual pattern is:

      Son watches a scary film or reads scary stories

      Son talks over the film or story to friends and seems fine

      Nighttime comes

      Son tries to be brave, but overactive imagination switches on

      Son resists bedtime, then wants to stay up reading and doing things to avoid sleeping

      Son either stays up late into the night, or has night terrors, or tries to sleep in his brother's or parents' room, or wanders the house like a phantom and tries to go turn on the telly at 2 AM

      Son is cranky and out of sorts the next day due to lack of sleep

      Son's sleeping pattern is thrown off and he wants to stay up late for subsequent nights, causing rows at bedtime

      Son wants to talk excessively about the parts of the film/story that disturbed him, or alternately, insists that is not what caused the problems at all (this one is especially frustrating)

      A week or so later, son has bounced back and wants to expose himself to inappropriate scary films, books, etc again

      Parents are sleep deprived and annoyed to be engaging in negotiations with nine-year-old

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  • I think you need to relax. You're making him sound like a thing, not a person. When I was his age I hated people that would treat me like the way you're describing. Why are certain behaviors that are acceptable for adults abnormal for children?

    To answer this post, as well as your other post, I think they're both pretty normal things. Do you remember what it was like to be his age? I loved to watch scary movies and go to haunted houses even though it gave me nightmares. It makes you feel brave. As far as this girl goes... do you know her side of the story about everything? I don't think them hanging out is strange at all. I have always had friends that were older, and younger than myself, although I prefer people my own age.

    Maybe she has her own issues. Maybe they are temporary and she will become amiable when things in her life are better. Maybe they will never go away and her behavior will never change. If you feel like her behavior is detrimental to your son then perhaps you should try and coax him to no longer hang out with people that make him feel bad.

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    • gryphon70

      Thank you for your honest and straightforward reply. I definitely don't want to objectify my son. I do try to put myself in his shoes, and also to recall my own feelings when I was his age.

      The biggest issue for me is that I was very different to my son in terms of temperament, when I was his age. Yes, I liked ghost stories and haunted houses, and liked scary films. But for one thing, the sort of scary films I saw were not as graphic in terms of violence as current scary films. For another, I was not as sensitive, and never had night terrors or anything like that.

      My older son was not keen on horror films at his brother's age, so this wasn't an issue with him. He also was much less sensitive in general. Every child is different, so what worked with his brother doesn't always work with him

      As for the issue with the older girl, I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt. She is a thirteen year old child, after all. I don't think she is a bad person, and don't want to add to any trouble she has. However, when she seems to have a negative impact on my son, I naturally want to defend and protect my son.

      As I said in a previous post, the thing that concerns me is more the fact that she is so much older, but so much less mature. My son is, in my opinion, in the normal range when it comes to maturity levels for a nine year old. So, it concerns me when a thirteen year old repeatedly puts him in a position where he essentially has to look after her.

      Thank you for your well-thought-out response. You've given me food for thought, and I appreciate your being candid.

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      • You sound like a great parent. I'm just trying to point out things that you could improve on and give you a different perspective. There's always room for improvement.

        Could you try to speak to her parents and find out a little bit more about her?

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  • YngPoly

    It is good for kids to have older friends. Something I dislike about most parents is the desire to keep kids children rather than let them grow up. Having older friends will raise a kids emotional and psychological IQ through interaction and experience. When I was a kid (5-12) I did not like most kids my age because I thought they were stupid and childish. Most of my "friends" were over 30. No they did not molest me or ever try to touch me so get your head out of the gutter.

    My question to you is this: he is physically 9 but what is his emotional and psychological age? You should Read the book free range kids.

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    • gryphon70

      Thank you for your thoughtful response. In my boy's case, although he is classified as "gifted" by the school, he does get along well, in general, with children in a range of ages. While he can see the world from a mature perspective in some respects, he also can enjoy running about outside playing with lightsabres and shouting his head off. I would say in general he is well adjusted, with good social skills.

      I think the question I should have asked should have focused more on what I perceive as the abnormal behaviour of the older girl. My son's other older friends occasionally engage in some friendly ribbing, and he can give as well as he gets. However, with this girl, the teasing seems to be more mean spirited, and she seems quite immature, even babyish, emotionally. I would say my son's emotional/psychological IQ and age are higher than the girl's, but he is just nine and can be quite sensitive, so her mean spirited nature can quite upset him at times.

      I'm a believer in parents letting kids work out their own social issues, but I'm concerned that in this case, I should step in. Thank you for the suggestion on the book. I will check it out and give it a read.

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      • YngPoly

        I should have asked this before. Has he asked for help? If not you really shouldn't do anything. Also consider this, she is not going to be the only person in his life that he meets that treats him like this. If you rob him of the experience of figuring out how to deal with people like that now you may be robbing him of the experience he will need for dealing with those people later.

        Also at that age I loved to play outside and loved playing with "mature" kids my age. The point I was making is that playing with older kids will speed up his maturity. Consider for a moment the maturity level of a 9 year old just a hundred years ago and compare that of 9 year olds today. Modern parenting methods leave a great deal to be desired in that they create emotionally and psychologically retarded adults. Think of people you know in their thirties that act like children and ask yourself if you want your kid to be like that. It is good to let kids know you are there for them if they want you but that you will let them go their own way. To quote Lazarus long
        Never crowd youngsters about their private affairs -- sex especially. When they are growing up, they are nerve ends all over, and resent (quite properly) any invasion of their privacy. Oh, sure, they'll make mistakes -- but that's their business, not yours. (You made your own mistakes, did you not?) 
         

        Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy.

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        • gryphon70

          He is very independent-minded and stubborn, so for him to directly ask for help would probably mean something fairly serious was going on. However, he does complain about certain things the older girl has said or done, which perhaps could be a way of indirectly asking for help.

          And yes, I agree with you that he needs to develop his skills in dealing with difficult people. That is why I haven't stepped in before. I do give him advice, and remind him he can always go somewhere else and not play with her, if she is going to be nasty. He does have the courage to do this, and has.

          I think that my issue is really two-fold. First, I am protective of my son and don't want him in a situation where he is being bullied. Second, it's very difficult for me to understand this girl's behaviour, so I'm perplexed. But the truth is, the girl's behaviour is none of my business, as she (thankfully) not my child.

          I agree with you that parents who attempt to micromanage their children's social interactions are doing them a disservice. However, if this girl's actively bad behaviour (as opposed to her rudeness, which is annoying, but not actually harmful) persists, then I do feel it's my responsibility to restrict my son's opportunities to be around her.

          Thank you again for your well-thought out responses.

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