Is it normal for a parent (s) who was spanked to spank their children

Through my work with families this question arises from time to time: upto a number of years ago I would have ansered in the positive but now I hesitate to give an opinion: I am not certain it is the best form of discipline in rearing a child: Recent years have taught me, attitudes have altered my thinking: I have accepted that I was abused by this form of discipline:

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  • AntiSpanking

    Spanking IS abuse. It's just minor and legalized. No one should hit their kid for ANY reason as it hurts them emotionally and teaching them that's it's okay to hit someone if they don't do what they say.

    SPANKING IS ABUSIVE and it HURTS kids (phychologically). We should get it outlawed.

    DON'T SPANK YOUR KIDS. >:(

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    • sexysonofsam

      Keep your little brats at home, I don`t want to interact with shit heads in public places.

      Your children are more than likely going to be candidates for prison before they become adults!

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      • DramaLover89

        Joke's on you, asshat. I don't even HAVE kids. Even if I did, there'd only be ONE and i'm sure there's other methods for disciplining kids. You shouldn't make your child FEAR you just so they'd behave.

        Also, I was spanked/whipped growing up. It didn't do jack except make me wary/scared of my mother (and I STILL acted up in school). Even nowadays I fear her hitting me. Spanking DOES NOT do good.

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        • sexysonofsam

          I am glad to hear that you do not have children and hopefully you never will have any! I was spanked, caned, hit when I was young and I am a perfectly normal functioning member of society. The problem is that your mother obviously did not smack you hard enough.

          I used to laugh at my Mom when she smacked me but feared my father big time as he did not play around when it came to punishment.

          If you want to do the crime, you must be prepared to do the time!

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          • fratom

            quite a sensible re-action from the many I have shared my question with this would be a general reply in their sharing with me: Even the threat of being spanked can be sufficient for most children up to 12. after that it is serious stuff if one is spanked into their teens: I am sure it worked in most cases where I went to boarding school: sadly the giy who was dishing it out abused his power and over beat us most of the time: meaning the beating was in-effective and abuse I believe it is and should be a real deterrent even for the teenagers and young adults of today

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  • fratom

    It is your chosen way; Any form of physical hitting, beating especially spanking the bottoms of children up to 18 is regarded by the experts as physical abuse: Your right as a parent to choose to relate right and wrong to your child is A slap, 5-10 min standing in a corner spanking: I would not be that complacent like ha ha ha spanking is not abuse: Statestic's show spanking is a huge form of Abuse used for years by institutions and families to instil fear into the child up to 18. It is humiliating and degrading depending the age of the child which is up to 18 years. any form of physical punishment is abuse:

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    • reminiscent

      No spanking is not abuse

      I also would not spank an older child... that actually seems weird like a 16 year old getting spanked. As children get older you modify your punishment to what is appropriate and what works.

      Im laughing at the fact that they are claiming abuse... there is a huge difference between a spanking to show a child that their behavior was wrong and abuse...like making a child hold large dictionaries in both hands held out to the sides...and if one hand goes down child must start over and get possible beating....vs 3 light spankings(or harder if you are not a toddler) on the child's bum.
      tell me how is one even comparable

      To me someone claiming abuse by spankings as a discipline (assuming kid wasnt hit for no reason) compared to actual abuse is insulting...and I could hardly take them seriously

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      • disthing

        It's interesting though, isn't it?

        If spanking (hitting) was such an effective form of punishment, why wouldn't you transition to slapping your child across the face when they are old enough for spanking to become 'awkward'?

        Why don't we allow teachers to spank naughty children at school?

        Why aren't the police sanctioned to beat you (with appropriate restraint) if you break a minor law, as punishment?

        It's really the principle of the thing. What are you teaching a child if you spank them? That if they do something you don't like, you'll hurt them. Until they grow big enough that they can hurt you back.

        I can tell you from experience that children who are spanked aren't better behaved than those who are disciplined in other ways - so what is the gain? What is the advantage in using a form of punishment reliant on pain, which you won't be able to use when the child grows up?

        I'm of the opinion that if you can use alternative non-violent forms of discipline, but choose instead to slap a kid's ass hard enough that it hurts, you need to think about how effective a parent you are being, what kind of standard you are setting as a role model.

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        • You make complete and total good sense in your comments above.
          Maybe those people who defend the actions of adults who hit children, are doing so because they were hit as children and may still be suffering from the humiliation, denial, and embarrassment often felt by victims of abuse well into adulthood.
          Or perhaps they feel a guilt driven need to defend their own abusive behavior?

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        • reminiscent

          Slapping across the face is much more dangerous ...you have a mouth, ears, nose, and eyes all on your face...all can be easily harmed and have devastating results.

          Teachers should never be allowed to physically punish a child... it could go against what the parents want for their kid and how they want to raise that child...its not up to the teacher to decide.

          Honestly children differ in what they respond to best and what corrects their behavior quickly. So I will say while spanking may work for one child it might not have the same results with another. And not every action calls for a spanking.
          but I wonder if that mom with the spoiled child screaming in the store has tried spanking? Because my daughter doesnt act that way in a store.

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          • disthing

            "...children differ in what they respond to best and what corrects their behavior quickly."

            Have you tried disciplining your daughter without spanking her for a significant period of time, using alternative non-violent methods?

            If not, you can't really say whether your daughter responds well to spanking compared to other means of discipline.

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            • reminiscent

              I know she respons well when it is used because the behavior isn't repeated.
              It is hardly ever the go to thing I use.
              I warn first maybe 2-3 warnings before she ether stands in the corner or gets her hand smaked or a spanking depending on saverity of the situation. She has even been grounded a couble of times since she has started school as I slowly apply this new method that as a baby wouldnt have worked for obvious reasons.

              One time I can recall were I spanked right away was when she was about 3 and tried to climb a shelf ...the shelf slid and glass fell ...once it was clear she was unharmed she was spanked and placed in her room while I cleaned up the mess...this was angerouse behavior I did not want repeated ever again and so used a harsh form of punishment right away.

              Before and after any punishment I make sure she knows why she is being punished by maintaining eye contact and asking her if she knows what she did wrong and why she is being punished.

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          • sexysonofsam

            I concur, children need discipline!

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            • disthing

              Nobody is arguing that children don't need discipline, the argument is about the method of discipline.

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        • sexysonofsam

          You are scared of your children.You have those intolerably little brats that scream their heads off in the supermarkets when they don`t get their way. I despise you and your little shit heads, stay away from public places! do your shopping online and keep your brats at home!

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      • Ellenna

        Oh so it's ok to hit yr kids when they're too small to fight back is it, but not OK when they're older and straonger and could hit you back?

        "Spanking" is a euphemism for hitting - in other words, PHYSICAL ABUSE by an adult of someone much smaller and much more powerless.

        Have a think about the size/strength differential between an adult and a child and what it's like to be on the receiving end of abuse from a parent who's too stupid or lazy to learn civilised and peaceful ways of teaching their kids about right and wrong.

        All physical punishment teaches a child is first, don't get caught and second, hitting someone smaller and weaker than you is ok: in other words, it's an endorsement of bullying

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        • reminiscent

          What? I said it was weird as in awkward...not because they can "fight back"

          If you look to the top post of mine above... it states you do not need to spank a child hard ... this is because you should take into consideration your strength and size compared to the child.if you spank so hard you are literly leaving blisters then that would be abuse. Or if you are spanking the child just because.

          Not every action deserves a spanking response as I stated in my very first post I use many methods of punishment depending on situation.

          I never bullied anyone myself and my mom spanked me ...and my daughter doesnt bully... so I dont think it really promotes bullying.

          Since I first hand can tell you there is a very distinct difference in spanking and abuse.

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          • sexysonofsam

            I say if you are going to go trough the effort, do it right. Once you have spanked a child his/her arse must burn, the little fuckers must realise that what they have done is not acceptable and will not be condoned by grown ups. The problem with most children reared today is that their parents do not have balls to discipline them, that is why they in turn become little snot faced brats!

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            • reminiscent

              Yeah but I dont think you should cause blisters bleeding or even bruises ...they dont need to be spanked that hard because they are small

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            • fratom

              as there are parents of children this for or against as you say once they have spanked a child his/her arse must burn for awhile: it was a deterrent in the past and a high percent of parents rarely had to spank on a few times of the childs childhood and adolecent years: but thankfull today the Majority 80% of parents use the modern method of relating right and wrong to their children maybe even 20% is a bit high who still do so we have moved on greatly from the the fear of the strap/cane hand or wait until your father gets home etc: being beaten on the bare arse does leave a phycologial effect again on a percent of adults who were

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        • Shackleford96

          I am just curious here, do you have children of your own?

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          • Ellenna

            Yes, one, now grown up and three grandchildren. I smacked my daughter (one smack only) three times: twice in anger when she was small and I was still trapped in an abusive marriage and once when she was a teenager and hit me and I automatically hit back - one hit only. I felt guilty about all these incidents at the time, especially the first two, and apologised to her. After the last incident, she apologised too.

            I think she may have given the first two grandkids the occasional smack, as did their father. The third grandkid from her second marriage was smacked by her father when she was VERY small, far too young to know right from wrong, and I stopped it by being an interfering mother-in-law and threatening to report him to social services.

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      • sexysonofsam

        I agree, a sixteen year old should be bitch slapped not spanked anymore!

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        • reminiscent

          You should never slap someone in the face unless they are going to hit you or have already hit you.

          The face has a lot of things that could get damaged.

          You are not a pimp

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          • sexysonofsam

            I am not speaking about slapping somebody until there nose falls off, I am speaking about giving an insolent little bitch what she deserves, one slap in the face on the cheek and she definitely think twice before she is going to back chat an elder again!

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            • fratom

              even that is a no no You cannot justify such incontrolled behaviour on your part: A slapped face is not done just because the other is acting like bitch to you: The fella could equally deserve a slap in the face Now, do you get the message No slapping a face or you will come of the worse

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            • reminiscent

              What if you miss and get them in the eye...now they are blind in thst eye =/
              Best to avoid the face

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        • fratom

          A no no to slap the face: I am certain you did not like it if and when it was done to you: The face is tender beautiful and loads of beaty parts that could get damanged; the cheeks are a small part of the face so a full hand hits many parts ears, side of the nose and mouth.. they are tender tender parts and can't be hidden like one's arse cheeks after a spanking/caning even that is a no no nowadays as it is abuse: Slapping the face is total abuse:

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  • Avant-Garde

    As far as I am concerned, it is abuse. Nothing can change my mind. I got spanked for sexual reasons, not for discipline. I'm over it. I have seen it used under normal situations and it never worked. The child still misbehaved. There have to be better methods out there to discipline a child.

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    • disthing

      "I have seen it used under normal situations and it never worked. The child still misbehaved."

      Exactly - in my parents time, children were punished at school with the cain. They had their hands or the back of their knees whipped by the headmaster. They'd sometimes have their knuckles hit with a ruler. Often these violent punishments were for minor offences (giggling, talking out of turn, running instead of walking).

      Were the children better behaved when that was common practice, compared to now?

      Fuck no.

      The deterrent of a violent punishment won't necessarily provide better results than the deterrent of a non-violent one. The difference is the first method involves hurting a child physically, the second does not. I know which I'd choose.

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  • slings_and_arrows

    Seriously why do you want to physically hurt your child - and that is what spanking is, it's not tickling is it? The point is you are giving them physical pain so they can remember and be scared not to do whatever it was again. Can't you just grow up and talk to your child? Or put them in the corner, not give then a treat etc with an explanation and afterwards make up, and even apologise yourself but say its the only way you have to show them right from wrong etc,

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  • reminiscent

    HAHAHA HAHAHA...spanking is not abuse ...like thats kind of insulting to people who have actually been abused.

    I spank my child depending on what she has done...a warning...standing in a corner for 5-10min...a slap on the hand...spanking are all forms of punishment I use.

    I find when a child is younger you do not have to hit them hard at all...they get scared and a light spanking is all thats needed.

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    • sexysonofsam

      I concur and look forward to meeting your little ones in a public place, unlike those little bastards that scream their fucking heads off and give me and their parents a migraine headache!

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  • thegypsysailor

    I do not see anything wrong with spanking as a form of punishment, as long as it is done for the right reasons and properly.
    It should never be done in anger, in public or as stress relief for the parent. It is something that should be contemplated, "Wait till you dad gets home...", mulled over and dreaded. At no time would 'a beating' be a spanking.
    Children need limits and discipline. Parents who provide neither are child abusers, just as much as those who beat their children, in my opinion.

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    • Ellenna

      If the only way you can think of to establish limits and discipline is by bullying, you are lacking in intellligence about child psychology and empathy for those who have less physical strength than you.

      How can it possibly be OK to teach children by example that it's ok to use physical force and pain against someone smaller and weaker?

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      • sexysonofsam

        Keep your children (brats) to yourself, do not under any circumstances take them to public places. I do not want to interact with shitheads that do not have manners.

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        • thegypsysailor

          I concur!

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      • thegypsysailor

        I truly resent your putting words in my post. Where does it say 'the only way" in my post?
        Your assumptions about my knowledge of child psychology are also pretty far fetched.
        Do you honestly think a 'time out' or standing in a corner are punishments that will work?
        I raised a child sailing around the world. The limits and discipline were extreme, as was the punishment for any infractions, because those infractions were LIFE THREATENING! Smaller and weaker is also stupider and less thoughtful. If fear of punishment keeps a child from drugs, falling overboard or whatever, then so be it, because bleeding hearts like you who use time outs and the "mommy is so disappointed" shit, will end up with DEAD CHILDREN.

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        • adolpholiverbush

          To "The Gypsy Sailor": VERY well put! Time out is for pussies. A kid who gets spanked, (not beaten), will learn that there are consequences to pay for doing the wrong thing. I wasn't a bad kid growing up. But there were times I needed my butt slapped and I got it. I'm not scarred for life. Times have changed. I've been working in the same shop for 38 years. Back when I started, if a foreman saw you standing around bullshitting, he'd tell you to get your lazy ass back to work! And we did. No questions asked. Today, the company would have a law suit on their hands for verbal abuse or some stupid thing. It shows too. Kids who had dads who put them in their place are more responsible workers. The pussies who were put in "time out" are always looking for a way out of work or someone to do it for them. Why? Because their mommy and daddy told them how precious they are and if someone hurts your feelings, you tell us and we'll get a lawyer and sue them for being mean to our baby boy.

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        • sexysonofsam

          I concur

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    • disthing

      "Wait till you dad gets home..."

      I hate when one parent adopts (or is forced into) the role of 'the punisher'.

      What father wants to be the one who is feared, the one who is used as a threat by the mother to instil a sense of fear into their children?

      I think it suggests one parent has lost the respect of their child when they have to use the other parent as a weapon.

      Anyway, I agree that a total lack of discipline can be a form of abuse - it's negligent. But I don't agree that spanking is ever necessary. I understand why people do it - almost always it's because that's what their parents did. I just think it's a lazy and limited form of disciplining a kid that sends the wrong signals.

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      • thegypsysailor

        It doesn't necessarily have to be the role of one parent; it can and should be shared. But I disapprove heartily of punishing a child in anger, so the wait until daddy/mommy gets home has value for the parents too. It allows cooling down and a rational discussion by the parents as to the proper punishment, not necessarily a spanking, but not ignoring that possibility, either.
        I loved my children and did not use physical violence often, but neither of my children had the guts to try drugs with their peers, because they were not willing to risk the punishment. I'd say that I did my job as a parent, especially when watching so many other parents struggling with their children's drug use. I may not be a perfect parent, but my kids did not use street drugs!

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    • sexysonofsam

      I concur!

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  • fratom

    How right you are In my experience only a small percent of parents spank thier children nowadays: yes you are perfectly right these majority have found a better way of helping their children know when they have steeped over the boundary line of bad behavior: making for more understanding between parent and child: Fear was a small part of the beating or spanking it was how sore my bottom was going to be left depending on the lenght of the beating yes a good observation happier familiies without the wooden spoon paddle cane

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  • electricblueoceans

    Just because it's normal doesn't make it right. I hate parents who do it. It's just mean, and the parents who do it are too lazy to tell their kids why it's wrong to do whatever they do. The kid just end up being afraid of the parent, and grows up thinking that abuse is okay.

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  • college

    I've been spanked by my parents, and even they are now questioning whether it was appropriate punishment or not. I never acted out or purposefully broke the rules as a child. I was what you'd call a "Goody Two Shoes". However, I'm not sure I can attribute that to being spanked.

    Just to be on the safe side I've decided not to spank my future children, just provide them with a very strict, structured and happy upbringing (at least to the best of my ability), take away privileges when they act out, praise them when they succeed, and constantly remind them that I love them.

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    • fratom

      talk to your child from a very early age: teach them the difference between right and wrong: then when they do something that you know to be wrong tell them there a consequenses for being bold, naughty, so then lay down your discipline methods: like tidying their bed room: no TV no computer etc deprive them of what they most like want to recreate themselves: early to bed with lights out with a cold bath or shower: Spanking is out good on you

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  • ez-riding

    Both my parents were spanked/ hit as children as punishment for misbehaving.

    My mother used to hit me with this thing called a 'rotan' (which is basically a long bamboo stick about the thickness of your thumb) and one time it broke so she used a metal hanger instead....But my father never laid a hand on my brothers or I. Could be a mix of upbringing and their personal beliefs.

    I know that I would never hit my children if I ever have any, even though I was beaten as a child. So take that as you will.

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  • megadriver

    It's normal. Also spanking is not abuse, assuming the parent isn't beating the living heck out of the kid...
    But I feel that spanking is a necessary part of child development. Your child does something bad, confront them verbally. If they backtalk, then spank them a few times.
    It's about discipline and respect. If you let your children do whatever they want, without any fear of repercussions, then they know you won't do anything.
    Break a vase? Smash the tv? Bully someone? "It's ok, mommy loves you, you didn't mean it"

    And that ^ type of parenting usually makes children spoiled, arrogant, undisciplined.
    So yes, in my mind, spanking should be there and should be implemented if words didn't work. Naturally the spanking thing works only with smaller children. You can't really spank a 16-17 year old can you? It's embarrassing for both sides. Then things get more complicated.

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  • Riddler

    First off spanking your child as discipline is punishment not abuse. I really doubt if your parents did this as discipline they meant to abuse you. So the fact you are trying to act like you were all abused now is pretty stupid.

    Second I think there was a lot of kids who were in my old middle school who needed a good whooping from an adult. They would try to pick fights with me but I think they would have stopped if their parents beat the shit out them. In fact there was a kid always in trouble at school. Said he would not stop bullying people unless his dad decided to beat him. He said not his mom though since his mother was a worthless bitch since shes a woman and women mean nothing. So men should treat them like crap. This was a 10 year old boy as well. In middle school. I really think it would be better if we just sent some of these people to the sun.

    Some people do not simply learn from words though. As well as that just because you discipline your child does not mean other parents do. So I think some form of physical discipline should be allowed in schools.

    If a child fears getting beat by an adult they are not going to waist time beating other children. This also creates a common enemy among children. However I also dont agree with lazy but overly strict/abusive teachers.

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  • fratom

    It is an age old issue to spank or not to spank: while it was normal back the years when no one questioned the other why do you physically beat your children: especially when the punishing was a male or Father figure thing: Judgeing on the re-actions it is now generally accepted that it is abuse and wrong: We all know that loving families are still in the majority from those bygone days of spanking: The percent is smaller wth those who were abused in the spanking because there was no love there and it was cruel: In my generation the belief it was okay, it did me no harm, sadly in that small percent it was abuse. judgeing on Is it normal re-actions I with the many accept it is abuse to hit beat a child under 18.

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  • sega31098

    Of course it is.

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  • fratom

    Well having been spanked and beaten on the bottom I now accept and value the experts who say it is abuse: it is embarassing, humiliating to slap/spank a small child: very unfair to the vunerable child: Sadly if all parents were perfect then what you suggest might be an option: I have experienced parents at the wits end when the modern child knows his/her rights and know being beaten is he/she being abused: So other methods have to be learned to assist the child to behave as all good children do: I am sure you know many who agree with you as I do have many who agree with me:

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  • Darkoil

    The abuse aspect I don't give a shit about, throw your child under a bus for all I care however smacking is a good way to train a dog, not teach a child.

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    • Ellenna

      Not a good way to train dogs either!

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      • Darkoil

        My point was that negative/positive conditioning is how people train animals, it shouldn't be used with children.

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        • Ellenna

          You said smacking was a "good way" to train a dog and I don't agree

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          • Darkoil

            Its a good way in that it works, not that I agree with it.

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    • wistfulmaiden

      are you really evil or do you just play evil on IIN?

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      • Darkoil

        In some respects I can be more honest on here than in my real life. I'm not evil I simply just don't care about strangers, I seem to lack empathy.

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        • Ellenna

          Maybe your empathy was spanked out of you as a child?

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          • Darkoil

            No I think I was empathetic up until about 16.

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        • wistfulmaiden

          ah. well that's better than faking sympathy at least.

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          • Darkoil

            Although strangely I really care about animals. Like if I found out that someone was torturing a cat and I was given permission to kill them for it I would happily kill them as I believe they deserve it.

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            • wistfulmaiden

              Animals are easier to care about than most people.

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  • wistfulmaiden

    My parents rarely hit me, and never once I was over the age of 8 or so. I did spank my son when he was little (I also slapped him a few times which I feel really bad about). Most of it wasn't because his behavior was that bad but because I had mental issues and didn't know how to react...
    I am better now and I try not to hit him at all, if he did something really awful like harmed another child or said "fuck you" to my face I would probably hit him.
    I think if you hit your kid you should not be leaving marks or doing it to hurt them, shock is more the idea and to show how serious the issue is. If you spank them every day they wont care anymore.

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