Is it normal i find gay camp stupid? to turn gays straight ?

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Ok , for all the parents who want to fix the gay children they gave birth too they send them to these gay camps that are suppose to make them Straight by getting all the gay boys and girls taking them to a camp were they are seperated from outside contacts and seperate boys with boys and girls with girls and they all sleep in diffrent areas but the women are with other women . they preach the bible and hope that this all eventually will make them Ex gays . Ok thier is so many problems with that thoery I do not understand how they think shoving all the gays in one area is gonna fix anything and if thier seperated girl girl , and boy boy ? That totally isnt a relationship or hookup wiating to happen that makes so much sense . This is not to promote gays or discourage it , im just saying if they were really gonna think of a idea they did not do a very good job did they ? Im also not bashing christains Im just saying this plan is not plausable what so ever . Its just dumb . Im stateing this from a loggical piont of view not a moral or a religious one .

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Avant-Garde

11 years ago | pl

It's stupid and should be illegal. These jackasses are too idiotic to realise that people are born that way and no matter how much religious pyschobabble they spew you can't change orientation. These people make me sick!

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- TerryVie
  
  11 years ago
  
  nothing left to add, so let me just say i agree!
  
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  - Guitarist420
    
    11 years ago
    
    Ha well said! The bible (all religion, in fact) is complete and utter bullshit, astonishing that people actually still believe these fairy tales after so many thousand years...
    
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      God may or may not exsist. Many tales have some historical value regardless.If you take out god from it you still have historical records. So you might know that if you checked the bible.
      
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      Sad you do not know history. Alot those tales that happened left evidence. You think Eygpt had no slaves and maybe they did enslave the jews and a plague did kill them. You know it was proven with science how that was possible.So I guess science and history is stupid too. What an enchanted world you are from.
      
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dappled

11 years ago

Stupid is one word for them. I can think of several others!

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Captain_Kegstand

11 years ago

HaHa gay camp, to turn kids strait! Are there still parents out there that are that stupid? Please tell me nobody on here would send your gay kid to that camp!

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  I wouldnt at all . I would not care as long as they were not screwing in his bedroom when I was not home and doing it at a very early age .
  
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  - taylor-mae14
    
    11 years ago
    
    exactly and you can have thoes problems whith any child.
    
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theaverageatheist

11 years ago

gay camps are wrong, period.

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bananaface

11 years ago

I really hate camps like those. I mean I can't think of a decent reason for hating gays! All these camps to is make them feel ashamed of what they are and make them try to suppress their sexuality. Surely the success rate is ridiculously low?

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  how can it be they trap a bunch of gay women and a bunch of gay males in one room and read them scriptures what do you thinks going to happen ?
  
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  - bananaface
    
    11 years ago
    
    I don't understand what you mean:s I said I think that the success rate is virtually non-existant.
    
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      Oh Im agreeing in another comment .
      
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anti-hero

11 years ago

While I disagree with your spelling (haha) I agree with your point.

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Geldsmaggen

11 years ago

Even if they were right and you could turn gay people straight the way they try to do it is retarded.

They think they can pray it away.
Can you pray away cancer?
The flu?
A cold?
NO. Prayer does nothing.

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- nightress777
  
  11 years ago
  
  The belief of prayer for others is to change their hearts but you're completely right. Prayer can only change another's thought process if they themselves are open to it. And it would be possible to make an actual gay person to THINK they're not gay through brainwashing techniques but those are dangerous, hard to do, and rarely ever done. Not many people even know how to, it's vastly experimental and believed to be encroaching on human rights.
  
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  - Allistalla
    
    11 years ago
    
    You can auctully perform this on your self if you are trianed thats how marshal artists do it , you can do anything with your mind if you practice enough I closed off my emotions for a short time but everytime I over excerted myself they came floooding out and I ruined my composer poeple expect alot scociety expects everyone to be absolute perfection or we are viewed as insane thats why poeple can never be happy it isnt a real option .
    
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    - nightress777
      
      11 years ago
      
      The mind can do a lot that we have yet to understand. Unfortunately, modern science chooses to vastly ignore what it can't yet understand (except for a few chosen people who are usually named "pseudo-scientists" or who aren't taken seriously in general). You sound like a very profound person. I bet you'd really be interested in the ideas found in the book "Socrates Cafe". You could probably look it up online without even having to buy it. It's all about a man trying to bring philosophy back to our day to day lives. It encourages people to question and re-question everything from what they know, to society, and our own beliefs so that we constantly evolve as ourselves and as the human race. It's largely based on Socrates' beliefs on philosophy needing to be a part of our every day lives. It falls very much under what you were saying about insanity and society, the many different asian techniques involving the mind, and prayer. It makes you think things you never thought of before and sometimes didn't want to think about. You already seem like a person who thinks along those lines on their own and it can be frustrating when others don't. I had an AP teacher in high school that told me about the book in the first place, she had our classroom set up in Socrates discussion style which is what the book also focuses on.
      
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      - Allistalla
        
        11 years ago
        
        I have always liked philosophy I will check out the book .
        
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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  Not that I agree forcing gays streight but I saw a man who prayed all his life and one day he was no longer blind it was a miracle and I seen a braindead man from a accident suddenly be able fuction again after a month of prayer .
  
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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  well not to say im against gays but I have heard of cases of curing blindness and retardation after a accident by prayer .
  
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  - Geldsmaggen
    
    11 years ago
    
    Are you sure those were cases of real retardation? They thought Einstein was retarded.
    
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      11 years ago
      
      no they were real. they were mostly cases of stroke or accidents that left the victem retarded. one man had a stroke and doctor told family he may never fuction correct again. He could not reason or even cloth himself. the family prayed and for months he stayed like that but one day out of the blue he recovered from the strokeand could function regular once more.
      
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      He is not he outsmarted a professor.
      
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      - Geldsmaggen
        
        11 years ago
        
        That's why I said they(his parents) THOUGHT he was retarded.
        He didn't speak until he was 4. Before that they were afraid he might be retarded. Then he spoke in complete sentences.
        If his parents had taken him to a priest to pray it away they would've been like "See it worked!" when it was just a coincidence.
        
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zchristian

11 years ago

Only thing that can truly "fix" them is if they are not really gay...

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Nokiot9

9 years ago

Gender blind till I die. Fuckin evangelists. ..

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missy911

9 years ago

What they really ought to have is drunk camp. Somewhere around 10% of drunk fathers molest their children.
The wife locks them out of the bedroom and drunk love seeking Papa goes looking for sexual comfort from another family member. Every child 7 years and older is fair game and the sex of the child rarely factors.

Let the drunks find their companionship in camp.

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missy911

9 years ago

Blind faith is no faith at all, just the practice stupidity.

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biaj

10 years ago

Can i just say that this is more of a case of people not being parents? you dont send your child away so someone else can teach them anything regardless of the subject. skip all that unimportant shit and notice that they pay someone to babysit and teach their children for months at a time.
its a horrible idea anyways that seems like a good place to meet your life partner.

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randypete

11 years ago

i agree!

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[Old Memory]

11 years ago

i am gay and was born gay but it sounds stupid why would you send boys or girls out to a camp where they sleep together it will have the wrong affect than what it was supposed to.
you don't have such camps where i live.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  11 years ago
  
  That was my piont. I get the piont but even so that does not sound like it would work.
  
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Anonymous Post Author

11 years ago

Im not awnsering to any more comments directed at me on this question but feel free to comment .

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Loh

11 years ago

Gay camps? Never heard of this till now! o___o

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aminormal321

11 years ago

It's anything but abnormal. It's stupid, you can't change who they are. It's pretty sick if you ask me.

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onedirectionbitch

11 years ago

its up to them if they would like to be gay; i think this camp is horrific and vulgar, like people have previously stated i think it should be illegal! it is an outrage! and i am straight myself, but i personally think gays should have the same equal rights, like law and religious rights. I think it is so pathetic they can't get 'married' in the house of God, even if they're Christian! Everyone should learn that God made you the way you are and loves each and every one of us in the entire world, he may not show it at times with some bad things happening in peoples lives, but he does. So i don't know who the government (or if you live in America, the public as well, because they voted against gay marriage) think they are, i think they have absolutely no right in telling people the can't get married in the house of god because of their sexuality. They wouldn't tell a imperfect couple they can't get married? They'd get on with it! I don't know why people make such a big deal of it now a days! It is a way of life and our society should learn to deal with gays/different races/religions; as they don't know what affect this has on them and i think it is really hurtful towards these people! AMEN

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dongwhan

11 years ago

So in gay camp they put boys with boys and girls with girls? are you sure that wasnt gay orgy camp?

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  Yes that they are set up.
  
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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  thats the piont I was making it wouldnt work .
  
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Allistalla

11 years ago

Well , I opened a can of worms now didnt I maybe this was a bad question to ask , I started a war that was not my intent I did not want you poeple to be at each other throats I wanted you to reply with a logic awnser not a biest hate filled one oh well Ill leave it up since it has gotten so many commits anyhow .

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izakthegoomba

11 years ago

Lol, I hadn't heard of this before. But yeah, even aside from the obvious point that it's extremely difficult to change a person's sexuality and doing so will usually give them serious psychological damage, I agree that it's a stupid and ineffective way to do it.

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theaverageatheist

11 years ago

when i heard that gay camps existed I was horrified I'm not gay but I thinck it's disgusting and probably causes serious emotional scars.
to me it dosen't seem to far away from a nazi concentration camp, eventualy it may lead to exactly that if some kind of christian dictatorship where to arise. hopefully people will learn not to take all bible verses so siriusly.
I think it sould be illegal.
anyway yes the method they use to "cure" homosexuality is strage and probably doesen't work in most cases.

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  The bible saus nothing about hurting gays it just says that they are going to hell I know Ive seen that many time " man who sleep with man shall burn " . I do not think it says to kill or harm them though .
  
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nightress777

11 years ago

While I would normally agree with that, it's a little more complicated than how you're putting it. At those camps, the kids are watched constantly so chances of hooking up in the rooms after dark are next to none. Most of the time, it's not some sily place. It's a terrible place that hurts people, makes them hate themselves or get angry at the world, and makes many of them feel like their families do not love them no matter the intention (especially since so many are hormonal teenagers who have a hard enough time struggling with emotions and the feeling of wanting to fit in).

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  Oh hm I guess thatd be a diffrent story though I just thought the idea of throwing a bunch of gay kids in a room and saying dont be gay seemed rather dumb .
  
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  - nightress777
    
    11 years ago
    
    Right? They've actually found scientific evidence in the body to point out people actually are gay due to biology. But I'm afraid that once that is widely accepted and publicized, ignorant people will see that as even more of a reason to "fix" them. Like now their argument is "fix their choice" but that argument could evolve into "fix their genetic mutation" or "fix their biological problem". People will always find a reason to hate others and try to force them to be who they want them to be, ya know?
    
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shakernatural

11 years ago

Dude...i can't help it. Please check your spelling next time.

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[Old Memory]

11 years ago

They have to try...so jesus doesn't hate them.

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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  you poeple you completly missed my piont .
  
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  - [Old Memory]
    
    11 years ago
    
    You?!...you've never made a point on IIN.
    
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      However I doubt anyone will get the piont of this anyways so what does it really matter .
      
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    - bigtoy
      
      11 years ago
      
      lmfao
      
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      Thier is always a piont . If thier was not a piont do you think id be here were all here for some purpose are we not ? weather its to get imformation , weather its to help poeple , or weather its just becuase were bored but I know overall its becuase we are killing time and we have no other thing better we could be doing at this moment now do we " ? SO what is the piont thier is a piont in the question as thier is a piont for asking questions and to get my underline piont you must read the question and think whats the underline meaning in this question ? I work with no party I have no side really in most matters I ask becuase i want to make a point thier always is a piont you just have to clever enough to understand it thier is a underline motive to everything poeple do thats the number one rule . Even if the meaning is subcutioues things are not so complicated for the most part thier is always a short simple coneceice awnser and thier is my explination . So thier is you go figure out the piont and you will be very furfilled as with it you get so many other awsners and I know whoever reads this will say its krap but it really isnt and though I am not a geniues i have some wisdom ^^
      
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- nightress777
  
  11 years ago
  
  Jesus spent his time with social outcasts, prostitutes, and sinners of all kind. The base of the Christian belief system is that he loves all, he loved the sinner not the sin. Maybe you should try reading the bible again? Because I think you've largely missed the point of the New Testament. Before you preach from your religion, it may be wise to learn what it is you're actually believing in because no New Testament I've ever seen has ever said such words. No Jesus I've ever learned about ever said he hates gay people. In fact, he re-states the importance of loving all..... lol
  
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  - [Old Memory]
    
    11 years ago
    
    I'm not religious as i've said many times, i'm agnostic. Jesus tried to change the bad people that his dad hates....like gays...it's in the bible, in sodom he kills people for being gay after he warned them to stop..i mean it's right there? New testament came second so it's stupid.
    
    So shut your mouth, i bet in Allistalla's classroom you're the "smart one" hahahahaha.
    
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    - nightress777
      
      11 years ago
      
      The Old Testament was a harsher time for reasons too hard to explain in a comment box, you'd have to learn about it yourself. But there's a reason it was like that and a reason Jesus "came down" from heaven and changed it. He was all about love and forgiveness and is almost the exact opposite of the God portrayed in the Old testament. He did try to change people in their hearts, according to Christian beliefs, but he also believed in loving the sinner not the sin which I think people largely forget these days. You don't have to agree with someone's lifestyle to love them or even like them as a person. There are many Christians who take that to heart and others still who only take it to heart when it comes to everyone except a certain few like gay people or a certain race or a different religion. But according to the teachings of Jesus, that was not what He wanted.
      One of my majors is religion.
      I don't even know what classroom you're talking about...? So whatever you were trying to say with that statement is beyond me.
      
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- Allistalla
  
  11 years ago
  
  My piont is in the question . I siad it already .
  
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  - [Old Memory]
    
    11 years ago
    
    You "said" nothing.
    
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    - Allistalla
      
      11 years ago
      
      You are a smelly old troll who lives under the bridge .
      
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      11 years ago
      
      I mean the piont of the question was not to get you poeple to fight saying you hate each other and Endless suffering is being a rude Ass making fun of those who believe in god .
      
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