Is it normal i found a flaw with being vegetarian?

I'm a vegetarian and I eat what I feel comfortable eating. I personally believe that there's a huge difference between eating plants than to eating animals. Just like how eating a pig is different to eating a human. I mean, that seems to be your logic and it doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe you should stop finding flaws and let people eat what they feel comfortable eating.

I think you have succeeding in finding a flaw. Unfortunately the flaw is your level of intelligence...

Everyone should just eat turds. Plants eat turds and that's what makes them grow so they HAVE to be plenty nutritious, so why not just eat the turds before the plants get to them. Then nobody has to be responsible for killing anything!! The animals can eat the plants, the plants can eat the animals, but the humans can now avoid all killing.

We can all just link up into a 7 billion segmented human centipede.

Circle of life, we must take life to survive. However we can do so without being irresponsible. Have you ever had a garden? Did you save your seeds? Did you have a creature that wanted to eat those plants too?

Are you familiar with permaculture? This is the idea of choosing plants that provide food, but do not require replanting to grow more.

This is a little dumb, for the various reasons aforementioned by my IIN colleagues.

I'll just give a brief summary of why I think it's a little dumb:

- Not all vegetarians are vegetarians because they are against animal slaughter for food.

- Most complex organisms on Earth, including us, need to consume other organisms to survive, you're right. Killing is unavoidable. However it's perfectly reasonable to aspire to cause the least possible suffering to other animals. There is a hierarchy of value in most societies that we apply to living things; we're at the top, other species of (complex) animals come second, plants and micro-organisms come third. Vegetarians simply want to subsist off the third stratum rather than the second.

Vegetables aren't tortured and abused like animals.

Also vegetables don't make decisions, think or feel the pain the same way animals or humans do so I can't really imagine it would matter at all to them anyway.

You've seen the state of how some animals look on websites when they're abused. It's horrible.

Did you ever see a vegetable in an advert stating that it had been left all alone to starve and was half beaten to death?

Perhaps we'll see mushroom fighting and/or mushroom racing one day ;)

I'm also curious as to why people say vegetarians need to eat meat to live when it's obvious that by "living proof" that this is a false statement.

P.S You also can't let a vegetable bleed to death.

This was an awesome debate I just read.. If u guys don't mind my two cents.. I find nothing wrong with being a vegetarian/vegan but you have to face the reality that you aren't going to be as healthy as a person with an all around diet.. At least not without taking vitamins and supplements.. Because believe it or not to much of anything is bad for you.. You gotta eat some meat sometimes.. You think a hungry bear would care about ripping you to shreds if he's really hungry and your the only thing in sight??.. Think about it

... I'd also like to add that the whole 'eating meat is natural' arguement is really annoying. Yes we can eat meat but we don't have to, its a choice. Besides, the people thst try to use this arguement on me either smoke, are drinkers, eat processed foods and drinks etc. Since when did they care about what's 'natural' for humans? You think thst other junk is 'natural'??? And since when were plants not a 'natural' part of a human diet???

Vegetarians are retarded. They think they are saving animals by not eating them but that is just stupid because animals hunt and kill each other all the time in the wild.

Why can't people just eat what they want? It's their money, their food, their mouth, and their body, not your's.

Animals are cute.
Plants are really just jerks once you get to know them.

However, I eat them all.

Plants and animals aren't the same, genius, even if they do both live and breathe. The flaw in being a vegetarian is that animal byproducts are used in the manufacture of fertilizer that is used to grow fruits and vegetables and therefore, vegetarians are indirectly eating meat!

Plants aren't sentient. Animals are.

TAKE DE POO POO OUTTA YOUR ANUS

AND EAT DE POO POO!

I have thought about this before. Plants are living things, so technically by eating plants you are killing them. However, plants don't suffer nearly as much as animals do, so while it is a flaw, it's a pretty minor one considering it's really the only way vegans/vegetarians could survive.

Plants lack a brain, blood and central nervous system, which means they are not biologically capable of feeling pain. Killing a plant is not the same as killing an animal. Many plants grow better when they've been trimmed; if you did the same to an animal it would be hurt and probably die later of infection or blood loss.
Fruit are actually meant to be eaten; a palatable outer coating (the fruit part) encourages animals to consume the fruit so that they will wander away and defecate the seeds out. This ensures that the seeds aren't all being planted around the tree so that they won't compete for resources.

And even if plants could feel pain, a diet that includes animals demands more plant deaths than a diet that only consumes plants. Why? Because livestock consume copious amounts of crops. Which means vegetarianism is still the more ethical choice from that standpoint, so it's a moot point.

I'm a vegetarian and I've heard this argument, literally, a hundred times or more. It's not intelligent, it's not original, it's not even logical. Eat what you want, let me eat what I want, and stop embarrassing yourself while you're at it.

Well, if you have the option between killing and eating an animal and a human, which would you choose? And between eating animal flesh or plants, which would you choose?

Can you live healthy without plants? No.
Can you live healthy without animals? yes

Plants are not sentient beings. Animals are.

That's silly. Everyone said what I don't need to say now. Its pretty funny to me though how many 'vegetarians' I've seen wearing leather. Ha!
I have no problem with vegetarians or their choice but I think its pretty silly to have all these fake meat food products. What is the point of that? Why make it try to look like what you're against? Or call it some meat related name? Just call it what it is ok?? Why pretend its a chicken patty when its not. I dunno, that always irked me. To be against something but disguise what you like into the enemy sort of thing. So it looks more normal next to your friends food? Ugh, forget it.

Wow the original post was one of the most idiotic things I've ever had the displeasure of reading!

=your absolutely right. if they can make us feel guilty for eating meat, we should make them feel guilty for eating plant life. Sure its regenerative, but isn't all life on this planet.

Sure there is, an abundance of it that justifies it but then again, we can justify eating fish in the same context.

Im not saying we go and endanger species like buffalo (which ended up evolving into boon anyway right?) but these "VEGANS" sucking down the koolaid of life after high school (college) need to realize that half the vegan shit they order in these kitchens are shared with pots pans and utensils that touch meat so, yep

Get the fuck over it and enjoy the diet that is available to us as top of the food chain. And if you are happy eating vegetables, fine, just don't go on a tit when you're invited to a really good restaurant celebrating our creative evolution as well.

Fucking translplants...

The meat your eating is tortured before it was killed, unless you go organic.

OMG vegetables don't have a nervous system you retard. 'Killing' a plant is in no way morally comparable to killing a sentient being FFS!

Plants can't feel anything, and aren't made out of flesh.

Not all people become vegetarians for ethical reasons. Some people become vegetarians for health reasons. Being vegetarian is healthier than eating meat.

I've had this thought before, and it makes some sense to me. But, then, I'm not vegetarian.

well plants cant talk so it not we can tell if they can feel pain its just the fact animals seem more alive to us while in fact plants are just as alive its just we dont acknowledge this because they seem so not alive :/

Plants don't feel pain.
Then again, neither do basic lifeforms such as oysters and sponges.

Animals have emotion, sentience, intelligence, the ability to feel pain. Plants don't, and if you believe there's even a possibility they have any of those things I beg you to open up a biology textbook. That is the difference.

I find it so weird that so many people complain about vegetarians attacking their meat-eating lifestyle when just as many, if not more, attack vegetarians over theirs. I don't see why vegetarianism is such a hot debating topic; it's just a lifestyle choice.

Everyone should just eat nuts!

The animal suffers less, because they get shot and they go into shock and can't really deal it, or they have a nail driven into their skulls killing them instantly. Vegtibles are cut, chopped, steamed, plucked, drowned, and crushed.