Is it normal i hate the bisexual agenda?

I read a few things about how "Everyone is bisexual" and its really starting to irritate me.

I mean before they had gay and straight. Now they have pansexual and about 7 other terms they created in past years.

I hate it when they say "We are all BI". I mean do we not even have choice any more? I mean before you had could say "Gay or straight".

So lets say you are gay and was picked on a lot for it. So this person is going to tell you that no you are not gay and you like the opposite sex some of the time? So in other words you are a liar since they are the Gods of Sexuality.

I mean I know you Bi people must have a problems with your sexuality but you do not have to push it on us.

Also from past experience I have found most bi people to be unreliable. They usually tend to flip flop or decide in the middle of a relationship who they like better and abandon their lovers. Am I the only one who finds this bull**** very insulting.

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  • VioletTrees

    The "everybody is bi" thing is rude and shitty, yeah. It really bothers me when I hear other bisexual people say that. But the flip flopping thing is just a (very insulting) stereotype, so please stop spreading it.

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    • Not a stereo type. I speak from personal experience. I have lost a lot of lovers who have done this. I also watched it happen to many other people. I am not following a stereo type.

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      • VioletTrees

        That's how people defend all stereotypes, though.

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        • A stereo type is a blanket they put over a whole group of people based what a percentage of them are doing. Like saying 100% of people are bi.

          I have not stated such a thing. I have stated in the post "Most bisexual people I have known" That means many not all. Watch the wording next time.

          Most means not all. That means I am not going by a stereo type. You are trying to state I am doing something wrong since I have attacked your party.

          To be fair they did attack the rest of us first so this is what they get.

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          • VioletTrees

            First of all, we're not a party. We don't all have one agenda. We're not all working together Some bisexual people are assholes, just like some straight people and gay people are assholes. I'm bisexual, and I've never said "We're all bi" in my life. I've also never broken up with somebody because of their gender. Saying "most" doesn't mean it's not a stereotype. If somebody said "Most black people I know are thieves", that would be stereotyping. If they said "Most gay people are promiscuous", that would also be stereotyping.

            When you say "they did attack the rest of us first", that is also stereotyping. You've decided that all bisexual people have the same beliefs about sexuality and behave the same way towards people who aren't bisexual, which isn't true at all.

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            • No actually when I say they I speak of the group going around saying "We must all be bi" I hate these people. I know your not a party that was a lousy way to describe it. I know you are not all like that but these idiots need to be shut up. I also know all gays are not for what the gay party is doing. I say a party since these groups tend to have community’s that represent them. Not to say they all believe that way but in the community a large percentage of them do. Also I do not like being told we are all bad since we are not bi. That is the most upsetting thing about this.

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            • Honestly I was hoping some of them would read this so I could make a point but they have not.

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            • <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_flag#Flag" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_flag#Flag</a>
              Like here most of them have a house that represents them. They all have flags and different organizations.

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        • I am not defending a stereotype. I did not state a stereotype. I have stated things I see happening over and over.

          You seem to misunderstand a stereotype. I have spread nothing. I am sorry this article made your party look bad but this needed to be said.

          I would not hold back if it was my party either. Be it age group or gender. We all have faults that is a given in all humans.

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

    Personally i understand where you are coming from.

    I dislike when others try to decide what someone else's orientation is, or has to be. I also dislike it when people try to act like there is absolutely no level of choice in the matter. To me that's along the same lines as trying to shove others into labels and telling them they're not allowed to ever change because ... well then it would go against their own belief that it's all completely biological. Or that people take it as a personal attack should you not completely agree with their own ideas on the matter.

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    • Yes That is exactly what I mean!

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  • kinda

    who said every one is bi till he make his own decision to be straight or gay .. that sounds like "nothing is bi"
    It's only a transitional stage and not a sexual identity
    No we all born this way " straight , gay , bi ,asexual .."
    and if we want to discover doesn't mean we are bi it means we are discovering (simply) ... how can asexual say i was bi before i discover i am asexual it sounds silly .. he was discovering but he is asexual from the beginning ..
    it is the same with all .. you may just know ur sexual identity and u don't have to discovers anything so it is simply that ur identity is so clear to you and you didn't get through the discovering stage..

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    • That is kind of what I thought. Thank you for putting it so much simply.

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      • kinda

        but this must not make you hate bisexual people ;)
        i think those bi people who you know are not that wise in life in general.. not only by not respecting ur identity... by the way gay and bi people suffered from straight societies... and straight people all over the world still judge gays and biz and they even say "gay and bi are not normal" and other things...
        if you think about it more you will find that Gays and biz must hate the straight agenda...
        Am i right??? ;)

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        • I do not care about the straight agenda. I just do not like being told screw off for not being bi. Also they assumed I was gay. So they are against gays and straight. I do not care about straight people or gay. I do not like being told that I am horrible for my sexuality.

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          • kinda

            so i think u r angry...calm down....yes it is harmful to be judged for ur sexuality..

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  • charli.m

    Where are the links that "prove" all this garbage you are spouting? Links to these things you have read?

    You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about, I have never heard any of this from bisexual people. Go ahead and show me that what your talking about is correct.

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    • charli.m

      So you type up several nonsensical, borderline hysterical responses, then delete yours and mine, OP?

      You always take an issue, then rip into it without actually having any facts. You're basing this on someone's opinion on here and you ARE stereotyping. Nothing new for you. Me saying that is not the same as saying "everyone who writes their opinion on this site is wrong and stupid". If you can't filter through the good and the bad (which will be different for each person in many ways) then that is your problem.

      No one can tell you who you can and cannot fuck. If you're not able to work this out yourself then that is also your problem.

      Violet has more than adequately explained things here. You either refuse to or simply can't understand anyone other than yourself.

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      • Also I stated facts many times and in my post? So are you going to dismiss all of them?

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        • VioletTrees

          I'm not sure you understand what the word "fact" means, honestly.

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          • I stated fact. That means true statement. I gave many examples. I put why I was upset and I gave many links. So I am not upset for nothing.

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      • I stated I am irritated by the fact people actually believe and try to push this. Also I do not just hear and see it here.

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      • I actually did not delete your comments. I have been trying to figure out where they went. I only deleted one of mine at the very bottom and I reworded it and reposted it since I did not think the first response sounded right. this actually happened a few of my other comments. I did not I will assure you.

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    • VioletTrees

      Yeah, I smell straw.

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      • charli.m

        It's insane...and a shame that all your comments fall on deaf ears.

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  • Hate is a strong emotion. Why does something that doesn't have anything to do with you (you are not bi, right) muster up such an intense emotion in you? What are you afraid is going to happen if people subscribe to the "bisexual agenda"?

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    • Yes I do hate them I will say it again. We have a choice and I will not confirm to the agenda. Gays deserve the right to be so and so do straight people.

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    • Read the post before you start asking dumb questions.

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    • Try reading the comment I made and the title and stop asking pointless questions. I said I like the right to choose to be straight or gay and they aim to take that away from us all. How would you like it if you said you are gay and someone said to you "No you are a liar" You are bisexual and you can screw a person of different sex whenever you want.

      How would you like to be told "Well you are obligated having sex with these people since all people have to be Bi". By stating this is to say we do not have the right to choose who we sleep with. So they are saying we should be forced into sex with people we do not wish to have it with.

      So we can be judged since we are not bi. Why do bisexual people get to judge us since they are so indecisive and can not make up a choice for themselves. I for one do not like being judged on my sexuality and I do not think anyone should be! This is statements from people defending the "All must be bi movement" I think we need to destroy this monster before it begins.

      I am not going to give in to others decisions as to who I must sleep with. I am fine with any gay or straight activity but this movement is trying to take our choice and I am making a statement to all these people who want to force us into having sex with whoever they want. They can not choose for us.

      I also read a statement saying. “We should not reject one gender because we are missing out and we are bad for not wanting to be bi“. Following that logic if someone says they like you and you do not like them back they can do whatever they want to since you are bad to stop them.

      Now tell me how pretty does this all sound to you? Does this sound nice? Would you like being forced into dating someone gay if you are straight or vise versa? I think not.

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      • VioletTrees

        Bisexual people don't believe that rape is ok. That's ridiculous. Being bisexual doesn't mean that you believe that everybody is bisexual, and it also doesn't mean that you believe that it's wrong to reject anybody's advances. What you've done here is the straw man fallacy.

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        • I based this on comments and this is something I was told in a comment by a person defending it. They told me I was "Fucked up for blocking off one gender and that I am missing out a wonderful person" So tell me why that gets to be their choice to make? Why they so hell bent on taking it away from us? I have read many comments about people saying "You are just all bi" What is with this? I do not get to choose anymore? I can not find all the posts but one I just recently commented on someone told me I fucked up for not wanting to be Bi.

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          • VioletTrees

            That person is an asshole, and that was an awful thing for them to say. They don't represent the vast majority of bisexual people, though. People on the internet often say stupid things, and a lot of people on the internet troll, so looking through comments to get an impression of what an entire demographic believes doesn't really work.

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  • RemyAudreMaxim

    Oh and sorry for the misspellings my tablet is cracked and the touchsceen is inpretty bad shap.

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  • RemyAudreMaxim

    Actually this guy is 't straight. Straight men would never have this much of an issue as straight men aren't encouraged to have sex with men. That whole widespread homophobia thing. Even in the queer community it's not encouraged for men to be bi, that's why so few bi men come out. No, this is just more garden variety biphobia from a gay man who also has latent misogyny and internal homophibia. Quite the mixture of toxicity. I also smeel some fairly conservative political leanings as well. Just your run of the mill,person with internal struggles projecting them externally onto others instead of going to therapy and working them out. Nothing to see here. Just made up strawmans. Move on.

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  • ETCR

    Oh look. It's a straight man getting upset because he's been forced to momentarily face a fraction of what LGBT people face for most of their lives (Being told that your gender or sex identity is not real).

    I wept.

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  • ccjigsaw

    I agree that I don't thin keveryones bi sexual.. but you're just hating. Chill out, so you're not bi. Neither am I, but we don't have to go hating on people who are..

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  • Legion

    I dont think that everyone is bisexual, but I dont think of sexuality as "you are either straight, bi, gay, whatever." I see more of a scale. you can be more, less, or equally attracted to a certain gender than another. it is possible to be completely one way or the other, but a lot of people fall somewhere in between. Some people probably use it as a stepping stone, but probably cause they feel a real attraction to the opposite sex, then they feel more attracted to the same sex, but still feel attracted to the opposite, just less than before, and finally, almost no attraction to the opposite sex, and vice versa. also, how attracted you are to one or the other can change. Curiosity is normal for humans, for sex, love, and stuff not related to this at all (ex: what are aliens like?)

    Sexuality is too complex to easily put into categories. The only thing I can say for fact, is you cant consciously decide what you are attracted to, you can choose your partner, but you cant choose how attracted you are to someone. its just who you are

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    • Sexuality has a formula as does everything else. Even the human mind can be put into it. Human behavior has a formula as well. It is not that hard to figure out with years of observation. I do agree with your scale however. I think I be way at the end with Asexual.

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  • dom180

    Haha, "bisexual agenda". They're not an organised group, you know :P

    RANT

    I think it's more accurate to say that nobody has a fixed sexual orientation. Sexual preference, yes, but I don't believe anyone who has a drive for sex is absolutely 100% completely entirely exclusive to one sex (you're free to disagree with that). The word most people know which is closest to describing that is "bisexual", but I think when people use the word that way it's a corruption of the term. Pansexual is probably closer to that, because the terms implies ignoring the sex or a partner and not seeing it as important (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070921020410AADaJcN). It's a subtle difference to a lot of people. I think a lot of people could be described as pansexual but don't identify with the term because they've never heard of it. Hell, even *I* could be better described as pansexual then any other sexuality, but I've identified with the term. I don't know why that is, maybe because it isn't a helpful term to a lot of people if you're describing sexuality.

    I can understand the need of someone who feels different or confused or scared to define themselves as an orientation because it gives them security and safety to know "who they are", but don't even think sexuality even exists in the sense that we usually describe it.

    /RANT

    So yeah, I think it's wrong in the sense of false and wrong in the sense of immoral to say "everyone is bisexual". I think it's a misuse of the word "bisexual", and I think what they usually mean is that fixed sexualities, like heterosexuality and homosexuality are illusions because they are absolute terms, and sexuality, like everything else, does not lend itself to the absolute. I DO believe THAT.

    EDIT: In fact, just to prove "everyone is bisexual" false, what about people only attracted to non-human animals? They're not bisexual. Bisexual also implies two sexes ("bi"), but what about people who identify as the "third sex"? People attracted to them aren't bisexual either.

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    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
      They all have flags and groups.

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      • dom180

        That doesn't mean they think or act as one. There is a group called the Christians, but not all of them believe all the same things. There is a group called the Americans, who, despite all having the same patterned cloth do not share the same opinions. There is a group called the bisexuals, but to suggest that they all believe the same thing is as ridiculous as suggesting all Christians or all Americans or all lawnmower manufacturers or all deodorant users believe the same thing.

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      *I've NEVER identified with the term.

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  • shade_ilmaendu

    Well assholes are always going to be assholes.

    But the reason that people say that is that it's being found that more people are at least slightly bisexual than not. I wouldn't judge anyone for being only straight or only gay, but if someone was worried they were having attractions to a gender they're not normally attracted to, I would respond to them that sexuality is a fluid thing and that it's more than normal for them to feel that way.

    This is probably a troll post anyway, but yeah.

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    • No it is someone who does not think we are all bi and is not bi and does not like being judged for sexuality. Which I was being judged for. Saying "You are a jerk for not wanting to be with both genders" is very rude. I do not think it is anyone's choice which gender we can or can not be with. Saying all gays must now have sex with the opposite gender and that all straight must have sex with the same because if not it is somehow rude is pretty fucked up. I am not going to have sex with someone I do not care about because it is “RUDE” if I do not!

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      • shade_ilmaendu

        I'm not disagreeing with you there. Like I said. Assholes are assholes, and there's a lot of those in the world :/

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  • FocoUS

    "I mean before they had gay and straight. Now they have pansexual and about 7 other terms they created in past years"

    Here's a fun little bit of information. The word homosexual didn't exist before the 1950's. They used other words of course like sodomite or saphic but that was the olden times. The word "gay" was used by the homosexual community because they hated the word homosexual. In the 50's "homosexual" was treat like a disease. "Straight" was also created by the gay community because they didn't like that heteros referred to themselves as normal.

    People can be attracted to more than just men and women. There are also people attracted to transexuals or intersex. Some people are attracted to all body types, they get called pansexual. The intersex (people with ambiguous genitalia) didn't come to light until the 90s.

    What I'm trying to show you is this look into sexuality and gender identity is all pretty fucking new. So don't knock it down so quickly. Pansexuality is a real thing. Bisexuality is a real thing. Stop being an asshole. Yeah i don't believe that everyone is bi but like I said the study of sexuality is a new thing, people make mistakes.

    Saying bi people flip flop is offensive. They don't flip between which genders they find attractive. A bi girl could be dating another girl but that doesn't mean she stops finding men attractive. She doesn't stop being bi and become a lesbian when she dates a girl.

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    • I already know all of these in fact I already posted a link to them. I know what they are but none of them are more important. They can not give rule to any of them. I am not going to be told I am bi and if I am not that I am somehow fucked up for not wanting the advances of a gender I am not interested in. I am not going to let this be dictated by someone who thinks they get to rule all of our sexuality. It is not their choice. If I can be gay I have that right. If I am straight I have that right as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality Look That has all the sexualitys.

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  • VioletTrees

    Ok, look. When you have a group of people face prejudice for their sexual orientation, and you're not part of that group, complaining about how you believe that group thinks and acts is a bad idea. Talking about the specific people who've said something hurtful or something you disagree with is fine. But it's not your straight ass's job to come here and tell us (especially those of us who are bisexual) about the problems you have with bisexuals. Doing so is extremely hurtful and stigmatising.

    Your post is nothing new to me, because I've had to deal with attitudes and misconceptions like yours for my entire life. Next time, just punch me in the face.

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    • Well I do not like being told that the rest of us are worthless since we do not want to identify as bisexual. That is just very rude.

      I speak of the people going around telling the rest of us how shitty we are since we do not want to identify as bisexual! That is fucked up.

      They are attacking everyone who is not bi and there is many who are not. so that include pansexual, gay ,and straight people.

      That means that any of us who are not bi might get offended by the statement "You are all bi because I say so". It is very rude they get to assume that without even knowing anything about us.

      This is a trick to make themselves look better. Although its not you doing it. It still pissing people off how many people think this and i have read this in more places not just INN. These people think they get to choose who we have to be.

      So nice to know that the new cool fad is bisexual. Well I do not think sexuality should be a fad and I do not like the rest of us having to deal with these prosecution for these bisexual people that seem to think they are above all of us. I do not mind bi or any other sexuality they have. I do hate being judged for having mine however.

      This is not really aimed to bisexuals. it’s a message that we have the freedom to be what we are and not be judged for it. I do not being judged since BI is the only sexuality allowed. I think that this needs to stop. I will not agree with this.

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      • VioletTrees

        Mhmm. Tell me more about how ~oppressed~ you are for being straight.

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        • Now your just being condescending. This is not even a real discussion anymore. What did you get tired of the debate? I must say though I do admire your conviction.

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  • VioletTrees

    What's your sexual orientation.

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      • VioletTrees

        The OP there is wrong, and they're also an asshole. But that's not representative of most bisexual people, and it's certainly not part of some agenda we have. Calling that "the bisexual agenda" is like calling homophobia "the straight agenda".

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    • Are you asking me? Well I do consider myself straight but I am not really into anyone. I just am trying to blend in to be honest. I do not mind gay TV or straight TV(romance). I do not have strong sexual desire for either sex. I try to force it. I have felt desire to have sex but I never found anyone I was inclined to have sex with. I have performed acts before but I never fully enjoyed most of them. If I have kids it will be with a strong handsome man who can find a job and make decent money(Since its smart thing to do). I hate being touched in a sexual manner.

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      • VioletTrees

        I asked because I wanted to know if you have straight privilege. You do. Check your privilege and back off.

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        • What do you mean straight privilege .Also I only say that since its safe. Even if I was gay you think I would say it?

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          • VioletTrees

            queersunited.blogspot.com/2008/10/heterosexual-privilege-checklist.html

            Also, when straight people are assholes to you, you don't assume it's because they're straight, do you? And when some straight people are homophobic, do you assume that most straight people are the same way? If you know some white people who say something racist, do you go around talking about how most white people are racist? You shouldn't assume that if a few bisexual people say something, that means it represents what most bisexual people believe.

            As a straight person, you don't have to deal with people assuming that your opinions are representative of your sexual orientation. As a bisexual person, I do have to deal with that, and it sucks. Stop perpetuating it.

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            • Also I was not the one who started attacking people since "Being bi is the only way to be". That is basically like a Christian saying” You are go so I hope burn in hell".

              Even when Christians believe that they do not state it proudly and a true Christian will be polite enough to say"I disagree but I will not judge".

              You see when someone attacks in the name of a party that is where the issue is. Also I am not mad they are bi I am upset they feel that since they are "Bi" They are the gods of the sex world and get to tell us who we can and can not FUCK.

              Also everyone has been pressured into having sex or doing things they do not want to do once in awhile. That guy has been pressured get sex from that cute girl he met. That pretty girl next do is getting ogled and being pressured into giving it up. Gay people are encouraged to join the crowd.

              Yet here comes another issue. Bisexual people saying we must all be bisexual.

              What if some of us are truly gay and do not want to try and change it and what if some are content being straight? I guess we do not deserve that right do we?

              I do not tell you all who you should sleep with and I do not appreciate being told who I should.

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