Is it normal i think jesus is extremely overrated?

Christians whine all the time about how great Jesus supposedly was, they kiss his ass on virtually every occasion. I just don't see it though. I've read the "Holy" Bible pretty good and to me Jesus seems HORRIBLY overrated. I mean, the nice things he said and did are virtually always emphasized, BUT he also said and did a SHITLOAD of idiotic and immoral things, that are VERY often swept under the rug. On the rare occasions these things ARE actually addressed, Christians tend to use all kinds of excuses and bend over backwards to justify the injustifiable. Here are a FEW examples:

1. He told his followers to hate their families.
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26.

2. He insisted that his followers love him more than anyone else (including their families).
"He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." - Matthew 10:37.

3. He was dismissive of other people's feelings toward their families.
"And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead." - Matthew 8:21-22, Luke 9:59-62.

4. He encouraged his followers to mutilate themselves to avoid hell.
"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off ... And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off ... And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." - Mark 9:43-48.

5. He encouraged men to castrate themselves.
"There are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." - Matthew 19:12.

6. He implied that all Jews are going to hell.
"But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." - Matthew 8:12.

7. He was a false prophet.
"Verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." - Matthew 10:23.

8. He was a warmonger.
"ink not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34, Luke 12:51-53.

9. He spoke in parables to confuse people so he could send them to hell.
"And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them." - Mark 4:11, Matthew 13:10-15.

10. He believed in a God (himself?) who had his enemies slaughtered in front of him.
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." - Luke 19:27.

11. He was a bit of a racist.
"The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs." - Mark 7:26-27, Matthew 15:22-26.

12. He got kind of gross sometimes.
"He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay." - John 9:6.

13. He threatens to kill children (with death).
"I will kill her children with death." - Revelation 2:23.

14. He lied about prayer.
"Whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do." - John 14:13-14, 15:7, 15:16, 16:23.

15. He said some stupid things.
"All things are possible to him that believeth." - Mark 9:23.

"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." - Luke 10:19.

"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal." - John 12:25.

16. He said that everyone who lived before him was a thief and a robber.
"All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers." - John 10:8.

17. His neighbors rejected him.
"Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?" - John 6:42.

18. Many that saw him up close and personal thought he was mad and possessed by a devil.
"Many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?" - John 10:20.

19. His family didn't believe in him.
"For neither did his brethren believe in him." - John 7:5.

20. His friends thought he was insane.
"And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself." - Mark 3:21.

21. He said that disbelievers will be tormented forever in hell.
"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." - Mark 16:16.

So, it seems this fuck indeed is quite overrated. Too bad Christians don't realize this. At least Jesus himself realized he was wrong in the end. I think Robert Ingersoll said it best: "At last, in the dusk of death, Christ, finding that he was mistaken, cried out: "My God, my God! why hast Thou forsaken me?"

is it normal I think Jesus is extremely overrated?

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Comments ( 21 )
  • I think he was a very well thought out character in fiction.

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    • BLAh81

      I'm not sure if he was real or fictional. I reject the shit out of him in any case though.

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  • peterrabbyt3

    I think you are a queer.

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  • steppenwolf

    I think you are being a bit provocative in a sort of anti religion reactionary way. But I agree. The bible is a gamish of weird fanatical writings during a superstitious and irrational period. And its elevation to absolute truth is...well...the reaction of a superstitious and irrational period. Sure, there are nuggets of potentially helpful shit, but personally buddhism makes more sense to me. Oh hey, then again, what about logic and reason? Nahhh.

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  • SHAKEStheClown

    You've got a big cow chip on your shoulder.

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    • BLAh81

      No, I don't. I'm just amazed how fiercely Christians suck Jesus' cock, given all the garbage he spewed.

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      • SHAKEStheClown

        Yeah you do.

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        • BLAh81

          See previous reply.

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  • GreyWulfen

    I think Jesus probably was a good person back in time, but that's pretty much all about him. I can understand why you like him or treat his words with respect, but some people just go too far with it.

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    • BLAh81

      "I think Jesus probably was a good person back in time"

      Well, I don't and I don't see why you do, because - as I've demonstrated - he also said some REALLY fucked up shit.

      "I can understand why you like him"

      Fuck, did you even READ my post? I DON'T like him!

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      • lolol555

        Your post is too long and boring to read. Half the shit is down to interpretation anyway, like the "mutilation" one.

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        • BLAh81

          "Your post is too long and boring to read."

          I don't give a shit what you think of my post (or of anything else for that matter, LOL). Nobody forced you to read it.

          "Half the shit is down to interpretation anyway, like the "mutilation" one.

          It's funny that Christians take certain Biblical stuff literal, and think certain other stuff has to be interpreted. Do they have ANY criterion for deciding this? Nope.

          BTW, what about the OTHER half?

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          • lolol555

            If you don't care what people think about your post, why post it here where people will comment on it?

            Also, they're called fundamentalist or literalist Christians. Not all think that way.

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            • BLAh81

              You've misunderstood me. The "I don't care"-part pertained EXCLUSIVELY to you finding my post too long and boring to read. Actual substance is always welcome. Perhaps I should've been a bit clearer.

              You're correct, not all Christians think alike (certainly not with all the HUNDREDS of contradictions in the Bible, many on VITAL aspects of Christianity I might add). However, It seems to me that most non-fundamentalist Christians don't really believe in the Bible; they only pretend to do so. Some don't even pretend -- yet all claim to base their beliefs upon it. This seems dishonest to me.

              There is no figurative way of interpreting Leviticus 20:13 or Exodus 22:18, for example. You either think it's a good idea to kill homosexuals and witches or you don't. If you don't, then say so -- and then be honest enough to admit that the Bible is neither a good moral guide nor the inspired word of God.

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      • GreyWulfen

        I have to mention that Jesus was a person who lived in days long forgotten, and the moral standards back then where completely different. Therefore, Jesus had quite modern views, imo.

        Also, it's bad to reply like this to people trying to answer your questions.

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        • BLAh81

          "I have to mention that Jesus was a person who lived in days long forgotten, and the moral standards back then where completely different. Therefore, Jesus had quite modern views, imo."

          I think a lot of the stuff he said was wrong in ANY timeframe or culture. I'm not too fond of moral relativism BTW. To me, it simply means excusing the inexcusable.

          "Also, it's bad to reply like this to people trying to answer your questions."

          I appreciate the fact that you were trying to answer me. However, the way in which you went about doing so (saying stuff like "I can understand why you like him" for example), CLEARLY wasn't sound. That isn't MY fault.

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          • GreyWulfen

            I'm not sure how familiar you are with the english language, but I meant 'you' as in 'a not specified person', not 'you' as in 'the guy who started this thread'.

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            • BLAh81

              No, English isn't my first language, I happen to be Dutch. Still, your use of the word "you" was VERY, VERY likely to be misinterpreted (even by people whose native tongue IS English I suspect) and therefore poorly chosen.

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