Is it normal that i despise my kids?

I despise my kids. I seriously fucking despise my kids. I hate the way that their Mother raises them and she supercedes every parenting decision I have ever tried to make in their lives with some bullshit about creativity and uniqueness.

My daughter is a phone addict. She's a little bleached blonde tanned daisy duke wearing teen girl who can't look up from her phone to save her life. Everytime I tell her no and try to put my foot down she goes to Mom and puts on a fake display of tears while throwing in my face that I'm not around as much as Mom. Well no shit, Mom wanted to be a homemaker so someone has to work.

My son is no better. He dresses like a common street thug and if you look at his facebook you would think that he is one. That kid grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood and has probably never even seen a ghetto in real life but his Mom insists that I let him explore his identity as I sit there in the principal's office because he thinks he is too cool to show up to class sober.

But most of all, I hate my wife. She is a dumb cunt and every time she opens her mouth, I want to punch it. She talks about how stressful it is being a stay at home Mommy but I know that all she fucking does is go hang out with some alcoholic soccer Moms all day while the kids are at school. Errands my ass. She doesn't let me make any decisions for the kids whatsoever and says it's because I don't know them as well as she does.

I would gladly pay any amount of child support and alimony to get away from these idiots. Or hell, I'd take the kids with me, maybe then my dumb cunt of a wife would allow me some parental authority. Is it normal to hate your kids this much?

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  • ghostfreakkk

    Dad..? ='(

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    • disthing

      Honey just.. go to bed.. Dad is having some quiet-time right now he needs to.. get away from you.. little... fuckers... AH GO BACK TO BED I HATE YOU I HATE YOU ALL! WIPE YOUR OWN DAMN ASS! AHHHH!!!!

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      • Pfft.

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  • KeddersPrincess

    I laughed at this.

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  • FocoUS

    Hey look it's a shitty dad. Note how he accepts no responsibility when he realizes his family doesn't fit his plan and merely blames his wife and children. Also note how furious he is about his children's appearance. Man, could you imagine if one of his kids came out of the closet or got pregnant? Some poor teen would get kicked out of the house.

    Maybe your kids are acting so strange because of all their daddy issues.

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    • disthing

      Maybe he is a shitty dad. Maybe she is a shitty mum. Maybe they're shitty kids because of shitty dad and shitty mum. Who knows?

      We certainly can't point the finger solely at the father here based on this anonymous rant, can we?

      And we certainly can't decide the wife and children are innocent and blameless based on this same rant, can we?

      All we can agree on is that it's rare for a father to "despise" his kids.

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    • Are you kidding me? Fuck. You are unbarable. Nearly every comment you make.

      He clearly stated that when he tries to make a decision that his wife bypasses his parental choices, meaning he has can't take any responsibility for his parenting because every choice he makes as a parent is being challenged and changed by his wife.

      Maybe it never accured to you that maybe, just maybe, he can't do anything to change his children because his wife won't let him? Ofcourse not, the mother can't do any wrong, even when "she" is the one lifting the father's foot when he is putting it down to try change his children. He tries to change his children, yet his wife isn't allowing him to try make them seme more respectful, yet it is the father's fault? Are you serious? Pathetic.

      "They have daddy issues" yet he can't do anthing about it because the wife won't let him, and that's his fault? Ugh. Piss off.

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      • thanksforthefreecar

        Why are you always so hateful

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        • Because irrational thinking irritates me, and it irritates me even more when it is irrationality that is repeated, then expects me to be nice.

          This person tried to blame the husband for things he tried to fix but wasn't allowed to because his wife basically wouldn't let him, yet this stupic, irrational, less of a humanbeing insisted on blaming the husband.

          I didn't used to be this hateful. I used to actually avoid bringing hate in to my comments, but this generation of IIN users are so impared to rational thinking and understanding that they can't understand simple things, their deductive reasoning is terrible, yet they insist on being right.

          I have become sick and tired of the new community, the old onw was far more rational, far more helpful, and overall not as stupid as most here.

          These people want to hear what they like to hear, not what the truth is, and this user's comment shows that.

          The father doesn't want her daughter looking cheap and easy to get, and he doesn't want his son looking and acting like a thug, and his wife stops him from attempting to make them more respectable, and to this user's thought process he is a shitty dad for it.

          I am nineteen, and I get so irritated, disgusted, and dissapointed that "these" people are my elders.

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          • Thank you for understanding.

            It sounds bitter but it's true. Just a few days ago I saw on my daughters facebook that she bought a new outfit for a house party on the other side of town. I asked her about it and she said she would be going over to her friend's house and that it was a casual get together and his parents would be home.

            I know this family and I work with his Mom and they're out for the weekend for a prosthetics convention. She lied to me. I told her that she wasn't going. She went crying to Mom and all of five minutes later she's in my face giving me hell about my not letting my daughter have a teenage girl life and how I'm being overbearing and how I partied as a kid and she started yelling and screaming and threatened to kick me out for yelling back at her.

            She's pretty much taught the kids that I am an overbearing asshole and I want her gone but that would mean I'd have to kiss my house and paychecks goodbye. I'm a grown man that has worked hard for my money and to provide for my family and if I want to lose this mess I'd have to give up everything I worked for. I'm tempted to move to Mexico.

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            • Don't worry, you don't need to explain to me how something may sound bitter but can be true, I know that fill well, and it is a sad situation.

              Wow, what? You really need to find some way of teaching your wife a lesson. Your children are a problem because your wife is the root problem, she is allowing them to get away with these things. Pretty sure I read that you were the one that was working for the family? I assume you bought or are renting the house you live in? Next time she threatens you to leave, tell her (if you are paying for the house) that it is your house, you pay for it, and if she dares says that she'll kick you out, it will happen to her. Also explain to her that if you are to get kicked out, she won't be getting any of your income, and that she can work for her children.

              Yes, this woman definetly is a problem for you and your kids. You need to try do something about her, either on social means (talking to her) or in legal means (divorce and taking the kids). When you take the kids, she may have to work for child support, which will teach her how hard it was for you.

              Why would you have to give up your house? Also, if you get the children, she would have to pay child support, which means you may get the same, just a little less, or more money back in which you have to pay her.

              This is the society we live in, unfortunatly. Nobody cares about the hard working men, and fathers are almost always pushed out of the family setting now.
              If you would be expected to pay all of this, and the children are taken away from you even though you have a job, etc, then I would actually suggest moving to Mexico. You would get away with not having to pay a woman that is, and excuse my French, a bitch, and she'd not get any child benefits from you, inb which she'd probably have to go to work herself.

              I am sorry this is happening to you.

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          • disthing

            Here's something that's irrational.

            You complain constantly about how this entire IIN community is irrational, overly emotional, illogical, stupid, placing yourself on some kind of pedestal as the pinnacle of logic, rationality and intelligence... Yet you stay here and continue to moan and whinge about it.

            That seems irrational to me, like an abused spouse staying with their abuser :) Or even more relevantly like a father who utterly despises his kids and wife staying with his kids and wife.

            Unless you gain some perverse gratification from being constantly irritated by us 'inferior beings'?

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            • You're right, that was completely irrational, glad you realized that yourself.

              Not the whole IIN community, the majority. There are many old time users still around that don't even bother commenting anymore because of how the community has turned. Do I think I am the pinnacle or rational thinking? No. Do I think I am more rational than people on here? Definetly. Do I think I am the most rational person here? No.

              So, you're saying that if someone "moans" about something that they forfit all of their intelligence and reasoning? So if you moan, you instantly become "illogicla", "irrational", etc? This is the irrationality I'm talking about.
              The only thing that I can not blame you for putting in that list is the emotional part. Am I sharing an emotion here? Yes. Am I lketting it ovecome my reasoning? No.

              Well you obviously don't know what irrational and rational thinking are.
              The situations are not the same, those examples were far off, especially the second one.
              I am not being abused here, I am being fed up here. I am staying because I was here first, I respect some users on here, and I have become acustomed to this site. I use this more than Facebook. I know that one day this generation will move away from the site, and that's wha I'm waiting for.
              The second one is just insulting. The problem here is that he can't get away from them without having to suffer by paying money, all because he wasn't allowed to be a parent due to his wife basically not letting him, only using him as a money bringer. What this man is going through is different to what I'm doing.

              Like I said, I'm waiting for this generation to pass by. Do I think I'm more rational than most users here? Definetly. Do I think I am the most rational on this site? Obviously not.

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            • tentacleTherapist

              That's hot.

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          • tentacleTherapist

            Potato.

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          • xyz789

            Ok understandable that he doesn't want his kids to look like thugs or look cheap but does that really call for despising your kids?? Sounds like an immature dad..I don't care wat my kids were. Retarded, criminals, potheads ide still love them and try and help them through it..as far as his wife "not letting him make any decisions about his kids," he needs to grow a pair, put his foot down and say enough is enough

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            • He obviously despised who his kids are, not his kids fully, otherwise he wouldn't of tried to change them.
              Last time he done that he almost got thrown out of his "own" home.

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          • his post is full of hatred so thats what we are commenting on, to hear a father say he hates his children...makes some people doubt the veracity of his story , i doubt the whole story and think he is the unloveable talking about the unloved

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            • His post may be full of hatred, but that's because he has a reason to feel that way. How would you feel working a job for your family to be able to eat, having to work so your children stay healthy, then when you want to try make "your" children more respectable because you know they're on the wrong path, you basically get slapped in the face and get told "you aren't allowed to make decisions a parent would, even though you're the rather that is paying for us to live"? How would you like that?

              Like I stated on another comment, there is a motrher that posted basically the same thing about hating her husband and kids, and look at the feedback.

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        • thinkingaboutit

          because he was not blessed with a good mummy

          boohoo

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        • Because he dislikes people who are so stupid that it actually causes brain damage when you read their comments. And i don't mean people with different, unconventional or oppositional views. I mean people like this "FocoUS" retard who don't put any thought at all into their comments, instead relying on a very insecure, immature and undeveloped train of thought.

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          • tentacleTherapist

            I AM SAM

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            • SON OF SAM.

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      • FocoUS

        His wife is a human being, not a monster with claws. Why is he so scared of her? If the roles were reversed, if the op was a mother who's parenting decisions were still overrun by the father I'd still be unimpressed with the situation.

        "I hate the way my kids are! Wah wah! I don't know how to be a parent!" Take a goddamn parenting book and fix them. It's normal to be concerned for your children not hate them. Hell maybe he's taking frustration he gets from his wife (let's face it inevitable divorce) and aiming it toward his kids, which is also wrong.

        And bleaching your hair and wearing hoodies is not a crime.

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        • Ugh. Oh, poor mother. You just sat there demonizing the father, then when someone demonized the problem (the mother), it's all "Wah, she's a human being. Wah!". Are you fucking kidding me?

          Why is he so scared of her? Because of the reaction he will get. If you read the comments and replies he makes, you'd understand, b ut I certainly doubt you'll feel sorry for him, he's the asshole and the mother is the rainbow sunshine carebear to you.

          He is scared because of how the reaction would be legally. He is scared to want a divorce because his house and paycheck can be taken away, everything he ever worked towards. His wife threatened to throw him out when he stood up to her, even though it's "his" house. Legally, society will help the female here and leave this poor man by himself with no help, even when he was trying to help his children by makiing them more responsible, and even though he is the one working to keep his children fed and heated.

          Bullshit you would. From what I have seen from you, I strongly dissagree you would.

          Piss off. He hates the way his children are, and so he tries to make them more respectable. He can't. Why? Beause his wife won't let him be a parent, and won't let him try to teach them to be respectable. Yet, it's his fault. "wah, wah", right? Fucking baffoon.
          "I don't know how to be a parent". He's trying to be. He "can't". His wife will not let him be by bypassing all the decisions he makes as a father. And since he works, his mother most likely lets the children off of his punishment, basically belittling him (if it was gender reversed you would be having a period) and yet "he" is the one that doesn't know how to be a father? It isn't that he doesn't know, it's that his wife isn't letting him be. Fuck. Do you have no deductive reasoning, or are you purposly just being a nimrodded baffoon?

          Take a Goddamn parenting book and fix them? Did you even fucking read the description? Are people so fucking shocked when I be negative to people on here when I have to read this, then see that four idiots thumbed it up? This is going in capitals so you can understand.
          "HE CANNOT FIX HIS CHILDREN TO BE MORE RESPECTABLE, BECAUSE EVERY DECISION HE MAKES GETS BYPASSED BY THE WIFE. HE WORKS, AND SO HE CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON HIS CHILDREN 24/7, IN WHICH THE WIFE WILL JUST GIVE BACK WHAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM BY THE FATHER TO MAKE THEM MORE RESPECTABLE".

          How can you not understand this? I tell you why, because it is the father. You are blaming the father for not being able to make choices as a parent, even though it isn't that he's not trying, it's that his wife won't let him, but yeah, totally not the mother's fault, remember, she's a carebear, and the father is just an asshole, right?

          I don't believe he hates his children. I believe he hates his children fro who they, and he is trying to help them, but he can't. I think he hates how his kids have turned out. His wife? I would hate her too, she is the root of the problem.

          He is pissed off at his wife because she is allowing the children to further go on as problems. His children are a problem, and his mother is the cause and root of it. Without the mother, I have no doubt he would change them in to more respectable children that he would love completely.

          Is that in regards to the image of his children? She is not "bleaching her hair" only, she is also dressing in a slutty way. Wearing hoodies? He also explained how he is acting like a thug. Again, did you even read the description?

          This is what I have to deal with from most of you, and you are really fucking mindfucked over why I think of most of you in a negative manner?

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          • FocoUS

            Oh my god ItDuz. I have not once defended the mother. Calm down a bit. I didn't say that she or the kids were faultless but I doubt the op is an angel. And don't fucking put words in my mouth it makes you look paranoid.

            He SAID he hated his children and I'm going to take his word for that not your assumption. He has not shown concern for his children. He HATES his children. Maybe you don't realize what a big deal that is because you throw the word "hate" around pretty often but that's pretty abnormal. "I want you to change because I love you" and "I want you to change because I hate you" mean two entirely different things and I don't understand why you think hate and love are interchangeable!

            Oh, and if kids like the ones described told me that their dad hated them I would say that they had DADDY ISSUES. (They might have other issues too on top of that) And I would say that a dad who hates their kids is a BAD FATHER.

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            • You have not defended her for her actions, but you have defended her on the scale of what she done compared to the man, implying she isn't as bad as the father, when infact she is.
              Again, you try to blame the father in any matter. He has tried, but he can't carry out what he tries to put in motion for the better of his children.
              That is like me saying "Yeah, well the rapist is bad, and in no way am I defending him, but I doubt the rape victim is an angel". Ofcourse, you'd go apeshit if someone said that on here.

              Words in your mouth? What words? Again, explain, don't just state. If you explain what I have apparantly put in your mouth I can either explain why I came to that conclusion accuratly, or apologize.

              Yes, he hates his children. "Why" does he hate his children? Do you need everything babystepped to you? Use your brain. Link things together in the description. He hates them because they are not respectful. He tries to make them respectful, in attempts to put them in the right back and love them as father to child, but can't. This isn't my assumption, it is deductive thinking.

              He has not shown concern for his children? What? Did you even read this?

              - Everytime I tell her no and try to put my foot down she goes to Mom and puts on a fake display of tears.
              - but his Mom insists that I let him explore his identity as I sit there in the principal's office because he thinks he is too cool to show up to class sober.

              Unless you are not reading things correctly, you have no excuse for missing those parts. He clearly wants them to change, and his wife is stopping him from doing anything to make them decent, respectable children.

              He "hates" who his children are, and wants to make the more respectable so that he can love them.

              What are you talking about? He hates who they are, so he wants them to change so he can love them. How is not able to go in to your head?

              Ugh. Again. You're just so unbarable.

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        • tentacleTherapist

          Octomo- oshit

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    • You're full of shit.

      The guy has a point, a big one. She does sound like a shit mother, and worse she wrecks whatever decent parenting he attempts.

      And seeing as i'm always right about everything, that must be the case.

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    • MRmr

      Hey look its a fucking retard commenting about shit he doesnt understand. To the OP I do feel bad for you, it seems your kids are peices of trash now due to the behaviour of your cunt wife(no offense), anyhow I think its best you tell you wife and the kids off and if she wants you to leave then well maybe you should cause it seems you will be alot happier without them. Kids that cant even appreciate their hardworking dad are scum of the earth, and they dont deserve a dad like you. I bet when you walk out that door and leave your family behind they will realize just how fucked their going to be.

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  • disthing

    If you honestly hate your children and your wife and this isn't just a dramatic rant on the internet to expel some of your pent up anger towards them when deep down you in fact do still love and rely on them... LEAVE THEM.

    You only get one life and stress can cut it short. Follow your own advice, pay the kids support from a distance and start anew. Sometimes things don't work out how you'd like them to, and if you can't improve your lot standing still, step out and go somewhere different.

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    • Problem is, child support and alimony.

      I have no problem paying either however, while I am not wealthy I have many assets. I'm a civil engineer and I make good money but I also invest and as a result I have multiple assets and from the legal advice that I have gotten, other than paying out my ass in alimony she will get at least 30% of my portfolio which would be horrible because she knows nothing of investments and those are stocks that, if I sold tomorrow, would be worth tens of thousands and she'd spend herself into a hole... AGAIN. She has no financial management skills and the only thing standing between our family and homelessness is that fact that she's locked out of all of the major accounts.

      I don't know if I could trust her to use the money wisely and keep the kids fed and clothed.

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      • disthing

        Yeah, that does sound like a problem.

        I can't really see much of a way around that though. If you stay with your wife and kids simply because you don't trust your wife to correctly spend the money she'd receive upon your divorce, you're remaining miserable simply to protect some financial assets. What do you GAIN from that scenario? You retain stocks but stay unhappy.

        Financial stability is great, but if you have to choose between financial stability and the possibility of having a happy and fulfilling existence with people you love, the latter option wins, does it not?

        You said you DESPISE your children, so what does it matter to you if they're fed or clothed? Unless you were simply expressing your frustration and saying things you don't actually mean?

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        • It's not just the financial assets, it's the children. I know how my wife is with finances and I know that she would neglect to feed the children. And yes, I despise my children, but they are still my children and it is still my responsibility as a parent to see to it that they are provided for. I'm sorry that you don't understand that but my personal feelings are not allowed to decide whether or not I am their Father.

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      • lop_of_h

        well you let her waste the money, starve the kids for a few days, either she will learn to deal with money better or the kids will learn who the better parent truly is and move in with you

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  • Wendell

    Take control, send your son to military school and send your daughter to a nunnery, then say "Sorry, bitch". Then stop buying your wife luxuries and see how she likes it

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    • tentacleTherapist

      ^This

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  • http://isitnormal.com/story/is-it-normal-that-i-hate-my-children-40475/

    http://isitnormal.com/story/is-it-normal-that-i-hate-my-husband-40097/

    ...Amazing how it's so different for women that hate their partners and children, yet it's funny and the father's fault when he says it, yet it's "poor you" when the woman goes through it.

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    • How lovely that I got some thumbs down on this part. What's the matter? I supplied proof that you cannot prove wrong, so you hide behind your thumbs down option in a pathetically and cowardly way?

      I am nineteen, yet these people older than me lack so much rational thinkinng compared to me. Think I'm just being arrogant? Ask all the main users that have been here far longer than you have, and they will imply of this. They won't bluntly say it, but imply it, because unlike me, they have some weird reason to think you deserve to be treated as a rational being.

      There is a reason why so many of the regulars left when you all did.

      Newest IIN generation, for the love of God, please move the fuck on from this site.

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  • This community is a piece of garbage. I wish they would pass on, this generation is just pathetic.

    Man, bad move trying to explain how the father is the victim. There is no father victim in this community, didn't you know? If the wife isn't allowing you to try make your children more respectable, it's "your" fault. That is the IIN community's mentality going on.
    Don't waste your time asking such a question to these people, really.

    Personally, I think you should give your wife a chance. Tell her that you are bringing in the money, and you are allowed to choose what punishments your children get if they deserve it, and if she ever tries to give back what youhave taken from your kids in your attempts to make them more respectful, tell her that's strike one. Tell her she has three strikes, and once those three strikes are up, you are filng for divorce and going to try take the kids. She obviously is the reason why they have turned out so bad. She is not even alowing someone else to try make them more respectful, and then allowing them to get away with what ever you have punished them for.

    But really, this is just so ducking gross of a community. If this was a mother talking about her kids and husband, there will be no comments about how they might just have mommy isues, and all of them will be about how unfair she is treated.

    The wife is the problem, and the childrens problem are the mother not diciplining them or allowing their father to.

    Who is she to not let you dicipline your children when you are the one bringing in the money?

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    • I don't know how willing I am to give up my paycheck just to divorce her because that's what would happen. Child support and alimony.

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      • Ugh. I feel sorry for you, man. It's difficult to g et away from a family that aren't doing men well without some negatives, which is terrible of society to do.

        If you were able to get the kids, you may not have to pay child support.

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    • tentacleTherapist

      I kind of agree with you. From what I've read it's all because of the baby boomers who were soft on their kids.

      PERSONALLY I HATE how I was raised - my mother was so lenient and my father's too busy with work.

      When I'm older and have kids I will HOPEFULLY stick by my plan and go Aunt Polly on their asses, and bring them up in the ways of the 1800s. Well, minus the Christianity.

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  • harrocakes

    Stop being a pussy & put your foot down. Obviously there's something wrong with you as well..

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    • What's wrong with me is that I don't want to get kicked out of my own fucking house again.

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      • tentacleTherapist

        Then fucking leave if they make you so angry. This sounds nothing like MY household - my mother stays home but she almost NEVER goes out and when she does, I miss her. My father is a hard worker but loves us, so I can't even BEGIN to imagine what you're going through.

        I say you just get a divorce or something. Again I don't know the whole story but I kind of pity you.

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  • Avant-Garde

    Have you tried couples or family therapy?

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  • I think it's reasonable that you "hate" them, I would probably be annoyed with them too. It sounds like your wife has a little too much power. Just because she's a stay at home mom doesnt mean she gets to be the only one to make the decisions about her kids. I would put my foot down one of these days if you think what you think is best for your kids in the long run. Theyll thank you later when theyre more mature...and if not well that's their bad.

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  • Bigmac69

    Hahahahah oh god I laughed so hard!!
    Maybe you should tell your wife you know what im the man of the house dont take no for an answear.. Unless you want to be a little bitch the rest of your life?

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  • anti-hero

    Yes, I hate those little bastards too. Do us a favor and stop breeding asshole.

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        BUUURN

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      • anti-hero

        No need for a coupon, I would be willing to pay full price. I don't want kids, I am not going to litter like you did. Hopefully this is a self correcting system and your kids will be rasied poorly by you and they will then grow up and kill you.

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        • Most kids kill their parents slowly and painfully. I'd be grateful for a quick and easy end.

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          • anti-hero

            Then we are agreed.

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      • MRmr

        Hahaha your gonna make Parrish kill himself

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        • anti-hero

          What? Why would I do that? You are a little slow, aren't you?

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  • UhhhOK

    I'm about to be a father.. I would like to know your screen name so I don't take your advice.
    As for your wife and kids, they all sound like little bitches.

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    • No.

      Get off your lazy ass and go to work. If you already have a job, get another one. Babies are more expensive than fucking Ferraris and in a few months, you're going to wish you'd have gotten a Ferrari instead.

      Should have kept it in your pants and gotten a Ferrari you dumb fuck.

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      • UhhhOK

        You sound so happy with your life.
        Haha your fucking pathetic.
        Should listen to your own advice, ignorant honky.

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        • We'll see whose ignorant when you realize that I'm right. Hope you enjoyed having a good life you dumb punk and I hope you don't raise your kids to be nasty little wankers like yourself. Also, be sure to teach then about you're and your as well as proper typing skills. They'll need it. Online interaction will probably be the best that they get. Better be prepared.

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          • UhhhOK

            Teach then? Haha your the one to talk. i think you meant them.
            Haha stupid ass.

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            • I'm sure that your baby will be very happy knowing that the depth of Daddy's intellectual criticism goes as far as "stupid ass". Do your kids a favor and don't speak to them the way you speak to me when you don't like what they say. I'm sure that their future therapist will thank you for not adding to her work load.

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  • Wolverine99

    yeah me too fuck your kids.

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  • jenna1234912

    Fuck it and leave them

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  • helpmemmmmmmmm

    your a fucking dad who hates there kids???????? because of you thay r acting like this you should have been more strincked you maby spoilt them thats what!!!

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  • Rabes87

    I understand hating your wife. If my husband never let me make ANY decisions regarding our kids, I wouldn't stand him either. That being said, I would either seek couples therapy or divorce her. If you do go the divorce route, fight for custody so you can try and straighten your kids out. Hopefully they are still young enough so you can have some influence on who they become.

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  • twyla111

    If she dint wanna get couseling then back to school if u.can and try getting a better job or.moving up in your company then get custody of your kids and leave ur wife be

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  • twyla111

    I would try family couseling asap with all that anger i dont actually thiink it will get that much better if u and your wife and kids dont talk rationaly and compromise and it sounds like u all wont

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  • twyla111

    To the dad u control everything in your life u let your wiffe and children get away with things ok then they are gunna act how.they act no one is tying u up and holding u at gunpoint.You can do whayever u want with ur kids. Your wife may or may not be a bitch but your a man so if u dnt like something put your fucking foot down and then figure out a compromise. Or just leave do whatever u want no one controls u or "stops" u frm doin anything. Maube get family couseling if possible. But quit being scared then bitching online its your house and your rules uh duh dumbass

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  • ccjigsaw

    One more thing. If you really are middle calss, and your kids are actually that old. Take a personal vacation. Visit and old friend or something.

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  • ccjigsaw

    I considered never having kids because I didn't want them to be like yours. Cause frankly, all kids these days are like that... On a positive note, you're not alone :)

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  • incapable

    Put your foot down.
    You're the man of the house
    so stop bitching and tell your ours & wife whatsup!

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  • Boo!

    Divorce. Give your children contact information so when your wife screws everything up, you can take them and raise them right.

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  • Mando

    That you hate your marriage is clear. You two aren't on the same page with the most major responsibilities and decisions in a marriage involving employment earnings, the division of household work and parenting.

    You two have a war going that includes the kids as a battle ground. Get counselling because you need to turn things around one way or the other. I don't think you hate your children. I think you are worried about what the chaos is doing to them.

    But you have to also step back and address your bitterness about your kids. You can't afford to alienate them - they'll be your kids all your life, even though your marriage may not last. Get help with that.

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  • CheyChey

    You hate your wife and that hate is being transferred to your kids. I bet no matter what you do you always end up looking like the bad guy and your wife the saint which sucks. If you feel your marriage is worth saving you could have one more go at it but if deep down you're done ending it would be the best.

    The tension between you and your wife is affecting your relationship with your kids, sometimes a divorce is the best thing & you might find that your relationship with your kids will get better with time. you go into a marriage with the best intentions giving it your all and it doesn't work out. I admire the fact that you want to pay for your kid's well being my dad fucked off he was a rich guy but left us nothing took back the uni money he had given me cunt.

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  • Sunshinelolliepops

    Hmmmmmm, interesting hearing a guys point of view. You obviously have gotten to the point where you look at your wife and hate her. You need to step back, and start to look at why you married and loved your wife and work with her to get your relationship back! When you fall in love all over again, and become a united patnership the issues with the kids will correct themselves.
    This means respecting what she does for the house, not just constantly putting her down. And coming from a womans point of view if you praise her she will praise you too!
    I have done both.... been the breadwinner and the stay at home mum. Both are Equally difficult and both demand respect for their input.
    You sound like a hard worker, i'm sure she does respect your input into the family, just doesn't show it because why should she when you don't respect her!!!

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  • kingsleycrowne

    I feel for you man I really do

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  • theworldsfuked

    what do you mean when u say i hate the way their mother raises them... i thought u were there mother..? o.O

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    • BurnaBaby27

      He's their father, lol.

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  • BurnaBaby27

    Holy shit.

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  • tentacleTherapist

    You people are so amusing. Harhar luv ya, I wonder if this website has an article on ED!

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  • Silentnight

    I reckon its your wife's fault why the kids are like that, because they get what they want and get away with what they want with her. So don't blame them too much, but I would suggest that you leave your wife. You'll be much happier. Maybe find someone else? If you get your children then you will be able to teach them some manners and make rules, that way they may turn out to be better children, and if you don't get them well then you will have some space from them. But still fight to at least have shared custody of them.

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  • tentacleTherapist

    Huh, that sucks. I'm not a father so I wouldn't know - but it sounds like you should get the fuck out of there before you are asked to stay at the Overlook Hotel with you and your family.

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    REDRUM

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  • harrocakes

    ^ k

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