Is it normal that i think animals and humans are the same nature ?

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I don't believe in souls, our minds are just our brains for me, there is not a thing like a immaterial true-self who is just incarnated in a body, we are bodies (I'm an atheist with a materialistic conception of the Universe, in the philosophical meaning of the word) but I don't see a true seperation between humans and animals : I mean, not only humans seems to be self-conscious and sensible.

It's more a spectrum : ok humans are the most intelligent beings on Earth, but they are animals too and if humans are special and human (and not animal) because they are sensibles and intelligents, dolphins are 90% special and human, a cow 40%, ect....
And in this case it wouldn't means a mentally disabled human is not human or is human ONLY because he had the potential of being intelligent thus "truly" human ?

And if for some reasons I belivied in souls (And I don't see nothing in the world that incitate there is other things than the material world, quite the opposite but it's only my experience) I don't see why humans would have souls and not the animals ? it's absurd to think humans are special and even the animals who are only very slightly less intelligent are souless biological robots.

And a god who creates souless but still sensible beings is just cruel : what is the meaning of the existence of a animal who is deadborn and don't have any afterlife when a dead-born human would get a ticket for the Heavens ? In the reality, both don't exist anymore and it's why our world is amoral and without any god but a world where humans have souls and animals don't would be a immoral world created by a hypocrit, evil and mad god.

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  • Jweezee
    9 years ago

    We are of the same nature as animals....we are animals. There's absolutely no logical reason to believe otherwise. Humans are very egotistical. Many want to believe we are special or chosen, that we are entirely separate from the animal kingdom due to being "created" as opposed to evolved. The tendency of people to allow their emotions and desires, rather than their intellect govern their reality is astounding. There's plenty of evidence that, as you suggested, our consciousness does not survive death. . We've made incredible advances in neurology would indicate we are nothing more than the substance in our heads. The people who say we are divinely gifted with a "soul" that transcends our death are simply substituting evidence and reality for their wishes and wants, for their need to believe.

    This is a little off topic but when you mentioned an evil god this came to mind. Short, excellent video. Well worth the time to watch it.

    http://youtu.be/vSdGr4K4qLg

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    • Lynna
      9 years ago

      Yes, we are actually an animal but you won't introduce yourself as an animals instead of human to your friend, right?

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      • Jweezee
        9 years ago

        I'm having a hard time picturing a scenario in which I'd introduce myself as a human. Haha. Like nice to meet you joe, I'm a human. I think I know what you're getting at and I don't really make that separation. that's a dog, that's a cat, that's a bird, that's a human. We're all species under the umbrella of the animal kingdom. I may be a little strange in that sense though. It's been repeatedly emphasized to me in curriculum that we are animals.

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        • Lynna
          9 years ago

          Hahahahahahahahahahahahhh, just kidding;)

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  • RoseIsabella
    9 years ago

    Just out of curiosity how much percent human is the average dog or cat? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, in fact I think some of the best people I've ever met were dogs and cats!
    :-)

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    • Zangyr
      9 years ago

      Cat : 60%, Dog : 70% ?

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      • RoseIsabella
        9 years ago

        Poor kitty cats.
        :-'(

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      • Lynna
        9 years ago

        Pig : 83% you can call them pig if you like

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  • cumm_guzzlah
    9 years ago

    a little too morbid for me

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  • anti-hero
    9 years ago

    God or no god. Evolution or creation. Either way humans are animals. What are the other options? We aren't vegetables or minerals.

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  • Lynna
    9 years ago

    Um... This is a very complicated question. The question you had asked combined with several category, science, philosophy, for instance. All the scientists in the world still wondering how's the life came from, and still, there is no an absolute answer. If you can figure out the answer you probably win the Nobel prize. And if you believe in science, Darwin's theorem of evolution and mordon genetic science can probably help you. Finally, if you believe in God just believe in soul, there is no repulsion between each other

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  • howaminotmyself
    9 years ago

    Plant life is always left out of these conversations. :(

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