Is it normal that i think they're lying?

In true crime murder cases, when the victims family and friends say "They were so funny and sweet and lit up every room they walked in" I always get the feeling that a lot of them are lying/exaggerating in order to make the victim look good. One reason for this, being that it's always the same ole "They lit up every room they walked in" and it's always "They had a good sense of humor" "They were sweet" "All they wanted to do is help people" etc. It's always the same thing. Not that there is anything wrong with it. It's understandable, considering I don't think most families and friends of murder victims would want the world seeing them in an negative light, or refusing to help search for the victim, unless the families/friends didn't care about the victim. But it's just a feeling I get.

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  • Holzman_67

    In most cases, it’s all in the editing.
    I was working at one of the last remaining video stores in my hometown and when that shut I was interviewed and I said a whole bunch of progressive stuff, with only a few words expressing sentiment, what made the cut? The sentiment. That’s what people want, what they cling to.

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    "He had rancid farts that often lingered on his clothes. When he entered the room you could tell if he had another episode."

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    • "He darkened every room he walked in".

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      • 1WeirdGuy

        "He had herpes..."

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        • "He shot his TV with his kid in the house".

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          • MonsteraDeliciosa

            What a woosh!! lol

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          • 1WeirdGuy

            Never held a job for more than a month and believes troll posts.

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  • Boojum

    Some of these people could be knowingly and deliberately lying, but I suspect the explanation might be more complicated in many cases.

    It can be extremely challenging to get your head around the fact that someone you believed you knew well and liked turned out to be capable of heinous acts. We all want to believe we're a good judge of character, but if we're confronted with evidence that this isn't true, that can cause a serious case of cognitive dissonance.

    We deal with cognitive dissonance in one of two ways: either we refuse to accept the validity of the evidence and double-down on our faulty belief, or we accept our belief was wrong.

    Some people have such fragile egos that they can _never_ accept they were wrong about anything. For the rest of us, accepting we were wrong is uncomfortable at the very least. Even worse, accepting we were seriously wrong about one thing can lead us to question whether we might also be wrong about other things we believe to be true. That can be so profoundly disconcerting that people tend to deal with cognitive dissonance by finding ways to justify their prior perceptions and beliefs.

    I suspect that in some of these cases, the friends and family of the culprit can't accept that they ignored red flags and any negative gut feelings they may have had, so they hold on to the idea that those signals simply didn't exist, and what the person did was completely out of character.

    In other cases, I'm willing to believe that those warning signs really weren't present. Psychopaths are extremely talented at putting up a false front and fooling virtually everyone about what's actually going on in their twisted minds. Ted Bundy is a classic case of someone who was extremely charming and fun to be with until suddenly he wasn't either of those things.

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    • I'm talking about the victims, not the culprits.

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      • Boojum

        Sorry, I completely missed your point.

        But, yeah, it's common for people to idealise family members and close friends who have died, particularly if they've died young and due to some apparently random act of violence. And of course they weren't perfect angels; none of us are. Sometimes this might be due to deliberate, conscious lying, but I think it's more often a coping mechanism. When someone you love dies, it's common for all the perfectly ordinary stuff they did that annoyed or pissed you off from day to day to suddenly seem petty and irrelevant, and what remains are the positive things about who they fundamentally were as a person and the good times you spent with them.

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        • Not just that, but what if the victims were the, let's say, less "ideal" member of society?

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          • Boojum

            Every dickhead is someone's child, parent, partner, sibling, friend or whatever.

            A few people are such enormous assholes that they're hated and despised by everyone who spends more than thirty seconds in their company, but it's usually the case that the media will be able to find _someone_ who has a good word to say about a victim. And it doesn't make good TV to have an interview with someone who knew the victim where they say, "Yeah, ol' Billy-Bob was always a total asshat and he totally deserved to die, bro. The only thing that shocks me is that someone didn't waste his sorry ass when he was twelve. Fact is, I was just sayin' to my bud Cletus the other day that it was about time that ol' boy got a twelve-gauge enema."

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            • Haha.

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  • Whatintarnation

    A little honesty would be refreshing.

    He was a selfish prick who loved to kick puppies and always left the toilet seat up. Fuck that guy.

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    • Yeah, who kicks puppies and leaves the toilet seat up!?

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      • Tommythecaty

        It was the puppies leaving the seat up the whole time.

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        • Those goddamn furry bastards!

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      • Whatintarnation

        Ah, he's dead now anyway. 🙃

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        • Good.

          He needs to stay dead.

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  • Where is everyone's replies going?

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  • malaparte

    He left the bathroom door open while he took shits and he once ate an entire pizza that I brought home and had the nerve to ask "So where's yours?" afterwards. He listened to porn full-blast at 3 am and you could always tell when he came because he would fart loudly - I recall him farting at least 12 times in one hour. 12 times! Great guy, though.

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    • The nerve!

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  • Victims, not the culprits.

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