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Do you think there are people who don't deserve to be loved? Don't think too global, just remember the ugly and scruffy, stupid and mischievous people you see on a daily basis. Do you really think everybody deserves to be loved? Be honest.
You feel people should be denied love because you personally don't like them?
No I'd call that "not normal".
Everyone deserves love, even the people you dislike. After all perhaps some of them feel you don't deserve love too. So where would that leave you?
Congratulations! You're getting an award for compeletely missunderstanding my question.
It's not because I "personally don't like them", I don't like 99% of all people. It's because they are in fact evil, and bad, and - not worthy of love.
So, you think guys like Andrew Kehoe or Andrei Chikatilo deserved to be loved? (and please don't gimmie that speech about their hard lifes and not having been loved during the childhood).
An fully grown up, already bloody handed mass murderer and child molester ALSO deserves love, like everybody else. Is that what you are saying?
Your problem is that you are mistaken on several things.
1) Your original list of criteria said NOTHING about mass murders and molesters. You only talked about people who were "ugly and scruffy, stupid and mischievous people you see on a daily basis."
Your list sounds more like it's based on appearance, personal opinion, and light misbehaving. But somehow everyone's suppose to know you meant molesters, rapists, and other hardened criminals?
2) You seem to be under the assumption that "deserving of love" means the same thing as "not punishing people for their actions"
Where in my reply did I ever state people shouldn't be punished for their crimes? No where. You just ASSUMED it because I said they "deserved love"
Yes people can - and should - be punished for their actions.
But they can still be loved.
To me it's like... a man I knew in the Navy. I saw him on the cover of the Navy Times a few years ago. He was being sent to the brig following a court martial. His crime was seducing others (even using his rank for it) while knowing he was HIV positive.
It was weird because he was someone I had liked.
According to your post it seems I'm suppose to hate him now. But I don't. Yes he deserves every bit of the punishment he gets. Yet I can't stop pitying him for his own sexual addictions and hope that he can change. It doesn't mean I'd trust him again but I am not obliged to hate his guts either.
1) I really couldn't make it any easier. Read the first question of my story. It says: "Do you think there are people who don't deserve to be loved?" As an example(!) I wrote about people, who are combinations of all the bad things that came to my mind.
2) Lovely story about that Navy man, but it doesn't hit the point of my question. So that man is still deserving of love, in your opinion. That's fine. Is there somebody, anybody, who isn't? It is in fact a very, very simple question.
I'll start. I think, a person, who combines all the bad traits one can have in him - ugly and scruffy, stupid and mischievous, coldblooded killer with a nasty habit of killing and raping little school girls without remorse, is not worthy of love. Such a person does not deserve love. Do you, or do you not agree with that?
Again there are two problems.
1) You assume everyone is suppose to hate. And that love means being gentle and coddling.
Love of all people does not mean we have to give up on punishing them. You can include them in "love for mankind" and still want justice to be taken on them.
2) Your list of what traits these criminals have is inaccurate. You seem to think they're all ugly, dumb, and scruffy.
Yet if you actually studied the 'worst of the worst' you will find that it's the opposite.
The worst of them were actually smart, well groomed, and attractive. If anything these positive features HELPED them gain access to their victims. They were so "successful" (if you want to call it success) at what they did because people originally judged them on appearance and like you they assumed "good looks" meant "good person".
I feel like I'm talking chinese here...
For the record: of course I do NOT think all criminals are ugly, dumb, and scruffy. I have seen enough actual criminals in my life. I am talking about a hypothetical case. Let's say there were a guy, who is *put everything bad in here* all those things. You think he deserves love, even after he anally raped his 6 daughters or killed 1000 new born babies. It's fine.
I think I get your position now. You're all for love + punishment, or love during punishment or something.
I'm going to have to agree with Angel, "ugly and scruffy, stupid and mischievous people you see on a daily basis" sounds a lot more like "that kid in high school" than "cold-blooded serial killer". In fact, none of those traits are really inherently evil to me. I see what you're saying now, but don't patronize someone for misunderstanding your poor wording.
Allright. My choice of words and my phrasing might not have been the best. My apologies for the poor wording, to you and to Angel.
I really thought the first sentence made the question clear. Which is: Whether there is at least one person - the kid in high school, the cold blooded serial killer, me, Charles Manson or Adolf Hitler - who doesn't/didn't deserve love.
I agree w/ you OP. I have no sympathy for those who rape or kill innocent people, or those who abuse children and animals. :(
Oh, and animal abusers/killers? They are *the* worst of all in my opinion. The lowest of the low.
The 100. time I say that having sex with an animal has not to be abusive!... But what if the fact that they got now love caused that they don't deserve love? Think about that!
i think that there are certain people that don't appreciate love. and they don't deserve it.
I see what your post is getting at...
I do not think that we, as humans, can judge whether or not others deserve love at any point in time.
However, I believe that there are those that do not deserve mercy. Mercy is only to be granted on to those who regret their actions and truly wish to change or committed such actions with little to no ill-will/ill intent.
Men like Andrei Chikatilo, Ted Bundy, Jeff Dahmer and the like are men that do not deserve mercy. Such beings are ones that deserve justice, that must be locked away so that they may not harm the rest of society and we may attempt to live our lives peacefully. They knew what they were doing was wrong and they had every chance to stop, repent, confess their crimes and accept their punishment, yet they did not. These men are not people that were merely led to the wrong path, they were men that chose a life of wickedness. They do not deserve mercy.
That's the difference between a criminal and one who has lost their way, repentance and refusal to make the same mistake again. Sometimes it takes multiple offenses for them to learn, sometimes it doesn't. But the further you dig yourself into that hole, the harder it is to get out. Now do they deserve that someone not reach their hand in to get them out? Depends, do you think they will attempt to pull you in to the hole with them?
TL;DR Everyone deserves love but not everyone deserves mercy or the benefit of the doubt, that's your judgement call to make to make sure you make it well.
Of course not. Especially the kind of people that hurt innocents, and the kind that refuse to apologize. A few simple words... "I'm sorry." make a world of difference to someone.
But I think if everyone was loved there might be less of those people.
I don't think that this is our decision to make.
It seems nasty to say they don't 'deserve' love. I'm sure they were once kind at one time.
Everybody needs love. Some people turn all crazy and shit because they don't have it. But after they go mental and start killing everybody then no. They don't deserve love.
I definitely think that EVERYONE needs to be loved. If everyone was loved there would be a lot less crime & maybe those "ugly and scruffy, stupid and mischievous people" wouldn't be so bad.
: )
I think your opinion is normal...some people are unlovable..but that is because they are sick..ill...
you know honestly...a lot of the people that have these problems like mass murdering and raping, have serious mental problems blocking out who they really are as a person. i dont think it's rigt to blame people for the things they do its the way they were born and theres this unnatural insatiable urge to do things that normal people see as evil. like people with OCD, they dont want* to have the compultions but they do because theres this thing in their brain forcing it. so yea theres people that dont deserve love....but we shouldnt hate them for it because if you think about it living as a murderer or a rapist isnt nearly as fullfilling as someone who lives happily with a family and has a meaningful job and close friends. if anything we should feel sorry for them
There are LOTS of people that don't deserve love.
For example? Rapists, child molesters, and mass murderers. They're scum of the earth and deserve nothing but the sharp end of the Devil's pitchfork.
now this was an enormous load of HORSESHIT!
Excuse me but I just couldn't keep myself.
You should always love your fellow man but love for justice must always supersede that love.
But even a love for justice is love for man.
TL;DR- Yes, all deserve love but "love" isn't always what you think it is.
80% of people have never experienced love? Sounds 100% made up to me.
Everyone deserves love, even the jerks who think they're more deserving than 'ugly' people.
If everyone got real love when they where small there would be less jerks so yes all deserve love even those idiots that annoy me so much i want to rip my head off and throw it into a fire...
ugly people don't deserve love?!
stupid people don't deserve love?!
scruffy people don't deserve love?!
mischievous people?!?!
ugly people don't deserve love??????
I question whether anyone who agrees with any of the above deserves love.
Well perhaps the reason those people you despise, (who you say don't deserve love) have never gotten to experience love in the first place.. which causes them to do the ignorant things they do.
I'm not at all trying to justify their actions. But maybe their attitudes would have been a little different.
All in all, in my honest opinion it depends on the person. Ha not much of an answer it :P
People's behaviour can make them unlovable. There is no way in hell I could ever feel love or sympathy for a rapist or murderer, for example.
WOW!! IDK HOW THIS TURNED INTO A VEGAN VS NON-VEGAN WAR BUT THE QUESTION WAS SHOULD EVERY ONE BE LOVED.....I HATE TO SAY I AGREE I DON'T THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOVED...I KNOW SOME ONE WHO TREATS THERE SPOUSE LIKE ISH...AND HE LOVES HE UNCONDITIONALLY AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR HONESTLY....I DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD BE LOVED BUT THAT'S MY OPINION