Is it normal thinking america was beautiful before european contact

Everything is always more beautiful without humans in it.

Native Americans would have uglied it up by now.

As a general preservationist (racial, cultural and environmental), I agree. We should have been content with Mother Europe and just left the natives to their own devices.

The Grand Canyon wasn't there until the slaves dug it in the 1820's. Now whitey runs it and sells souvenirs, profiting off of the sweat of the black man. It's sickening really.

Youre right, America would have been a beautifull place, so would Africa, where the European hunger for exports of animal commodities led to the continent wide killing of millions of Africas' animals by the Africans themselves, Europe probably looked pretty darn amazing too before the romans and Greeks made contact , kicking off the creation of towns, irrigation, ploughing of farmland, ect, but do remember that north America would probably have been in the same spot as africa now, dozens of different states with regular dictatorships coud'd e'tats civil wars and famine, because theyd have come into contact with Europeans eventually, and that would mean western weapons to settle their tribal disputes as was the case in so much of the developing world (The Maori Musket wars for e.g)

And without colonized America, there would probably have been no massive inflow of resources into Europe that nesccesitated the industrial revolution, which would have caused Europe to collapse again like the roman empire, or even if it did Hitler would have won the second world war, which would put the non Europeans in the world ina really crappy postion, or soviet Russia would be ruling us all now, I apologise for going waaay off topic but theres my two cents anyway

I think I agree.

Imagine a map of America, not with the borders of the states as we know them today but with the living areas of the different native American tribes. That would be the true map of America. Unfortunately, such a map was never drawn as European intruders showed no respect for the native Americans.

In that way, I'm somewhat ashamed to be European but I'm also proud to still live in Europe. I didn't participate in conquering other parts of the world.

It's always been Europeans conquering the rest of the world, never other continents. Imagine the native American civilization would have been ahead of Europe and it would be them who discovered and conquered Europe, showing no respect for our countries?

Of course this is not only true for America, it's true for all of the world. Think about the Aboriginals in Australia for example, they're just as native to the country but they had enough to it just like the Indians had enough to America. Then I wonder, why didn't we Europeans had enough to Europe?

I agree OP. Thanks for a refreshing post.

Who were Francis and Drake?

Yeah just like africa lol dumbass why dont you go live in africa, here's the answer because it sucks. and they places that don't suck is because they are full of white people

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