Is it normal to feel trapped by atheism/physicalism?

Howdy, folks!

I have been an atheist, largely ascribing to physicalism/reductive materialism for six years, now.

Recently, my great grandmother died, I underwent some mild depression (nothing I couldn't handle, even if I didn't particularly enjoy it), and went to see a psychiatrist specifically handle some ADHD. When I described my thought processes and behavior patterns, he thought I was probably more anxious/depressed than lacking in attention span. He put me on zoloft, and within about a week, I went into a deep existential panic. I'm off of the stuff now, and have been for a month...but it sort of brought me into confrontation with my own mortality, and it's just depressing.

Now, mind you, I'm not about to go leaping back into the arms of some kind of anthropocentric, control-the-masses, sell-the-books religion or cult. Those suck, too.

The whole "invent a life meaning" thing doesn't work for me, either -- if we're reductive materialists (which is really how you tend to get to this sort of worldview regardless), any statement about meaning is, well...meaningless.

The whole 'nonexistence as a comfort' thing doesn't work for me either -- there are lots of things I enjoy about life, and I just don't want it to all go away.

I've been grappling with this for a couple of months, and there have been some upsides -- I got out of a 'meh' relationship, but I'm not sure I'll find a good one to replace it. Monogamy doesn't do it for me, I guess -- the odds of me finding a woman who works for me long term is about 10,000 to 1 on a chance encounter. I've calculated this. But I don't want to jump from person to person and use others for my own satisfaction without giving something back, either.

I've also started doing things that make me feel good, such as dancing (which is AWESOME), and picking up old hobbies, getting out and meeting lots of new people, etc. However, all this has done is give me a temporary joy or avoidance of pain. When I was religious, even in my worst moments, there was still an underlying core of security and comfort that was hard to replace. Everything was okay. Ultimately, my inevitable demise and the entropy of the universe depress the hell out of me.

Anyone else deal with this? Did any of you find ways to justify not being physicalists for this reason? Did you return to (egh) traditional religions? Is it normal to wish you could even just believe differently, but for some reason feel trapped?

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  • malkiot

    I was 13 or 14 when I came to the conclusion that if there is no grand scheme, orchestrated by a higher power (which as an atheist I do not believe in) then there is no deeper meaning in the existence of anything than the existence in itself. In conclusion any object, process, and lifeform is 'unimportant' from an objective viewpoint.

    As such the only thing left to us, by a lack of a general purpose of life (which is a fairly dumb idea to begin with), is to do whatever we want to do and have some fun before it all ends.

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    • BLAh81

      ...as long as it hurts no-one, right?

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  • thr

    For a long time, I have not believed in the existence of a god or a meaning of life, and, to me, a material world without meaning has made the most sense.

    I can not really remember having thought that much about the depressing sides of mortality as a final thing. I have, however, thought of how, for a religious person who doubts his life is worth living, it can be an imperative thing that they carry on, while a non-religious person in the same situation may have to find out for himself, why life is worth living.

    Your talk of inventing a life meaning makes me think of how values are subjective. Anything you may say is of great importance, someone else can show great disinterest or carelessness towards. Everything you value does not have intrinsic value. For some time I have focused a lot on how things that have seemed important can be viewed as not so. This has affected me negatively, I think, since it can make things unimportant.

    E.g., say you run a marathon and everyone around you views it as no more impressive than had you sat in front of the tv. If, instead, everyone around you agrees on the value of something, your trust in this value may be more secure. And, if religious texts say that something has intrinsic value, then you don't have to worry about it.
    I don't know, if this helps, or, even, how relevant it is.

    As for dealing with it, I remember how I liked the thought of the transitoriness of life after having read Tolkien's Silmarillion. It can add to the beauty of human life, that humans only live for so long.

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  • q25t

    I went through much the same thing about a year ago. The only thing that really seemed to help me was looking into transhumanism, specifically the radical life-extension parts. Hopefully with a few millennia, I can come to grips with death.

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    • Tellidall

      I just don't buy transhumanism, though I am signed up for cryonics.

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      • q25t

        That's at least good then.

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  • smincxie69

    If you believe in NOTHING, then why do you search so hard to intellectualize your existence? And you seem to fear death. Perhaps you should pray about it. Not trying to be contrary.
    You keep your mind spinning from here to there. You actually calculated your odds of finding a relationship. Maybe it's time to dig deeper for truth instead of being dismissive. You have to rightly divide. That's the mystery. Don't bother with traditions of man. That's what turns people off and sends one on a spiral. Be at peace.

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  • q1w2e3

    Research Islam with open heart. Quran.com

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    • BLAh81

      Islam sucks balls.

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