Is it normal to let a boy be a girl?

It started while I was watching "What Would You DO?" I can easily say it is my favorite show on TV. I don't watch TV, but I do watch the show on the internet. They did this episode on a boy wanting to dress as a girl. Then I stumbled on a news article about the same thing. Then, just recently, I stumbled on a youtube video with the same premise. I poked around a little after that and found this is a recurring thing.

Now, I want to state that I support this decision from these children and their parents. Whatever make the child, and I emphasize, the child, happy, then that is what should be done. But, only if you make it clear to that child the repercussions of such an extreme choice.

What I was wondering is what the good people of is it normal think. Is it normal to let a child chose their own sexual identity, despite what their biological identity is?

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Based on 65 votes (39 yes)
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  • Watashi

    I think it is. Society decides what the gender roles are and how boys and girls should be like. Instead of molding children into what society tells them to be just let them be themselves.

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  • Light-Yagami

    It's called transgender - when a person identifies as a different gender to what they were born with. My best friend is transgender and has been since 13, he (biologically, she) is happy with his choice, although unfortunately some people don't accept him for it. Nowadays transgender is kind of like homosexuality, in that the socially acceptable thing to do is support it but a lot of people really don't.

    Bottom line, it is in the process of becoming normal and accepted in our culture, and therefore my final answer is yes.

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    • Pseodonihm

      I know what it's called. In the past even knew a transgender woman. My opinion is, what ever makes you happy, as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others, do it. As it shall harm none, do as tho will. I'm just trying to find out what the others on IIN think.

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  • thegypsysailor

    I think the key word here is 'child'. A parent's job is to guide, teach and protect their children, at times even from themselves.
    But children are not necessarily rational thinking beings; they are children, often guided by emotions and irrational behavior. Therefor the parents must guide their child and if necessary not give in to it's every whim.
    Something such as cross dressing can be nothing more than a phase or curiosity in a child, and as such should not be indulged as public behavior. If it is more, it is still the responsibility of the parents to protect their child until it is old enough to make a rational decision about something as life changing as transsexualism.

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  • megadriver

    What I think: NO! What you are born is what you will be. You can't change that. Deep down you will always know if you are one gender, you can't be the other.

    Now I bet my comment is going to get mauled by people with the "new generation" thinking, claiming that everyone can be anything. Well I'm oldschool. I wanted to be an airplane when I was 6, but after I faceplanted once, I gave up on that XD
    The same applies to genders.

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  • WhiteStallion

    I don't see anything wrong with kids wanting to play around and explore the differences between their genders in this way...However if it exceeds just play and the child is serious about this, then I will step in to teach them, as is my responsibility (hypothetically speaking as a parent), I would inform him/her of their gender and tell them that in line with that, they aren't behaving appropriately... My nephew likes to cross-dress sometimes for fun to see how he looks in comparison to his sisters and we all make fun of it but he knows his gender and acts like a typical normal boy.

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  • lc1988

    In this case, i would opt for abortion.

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  • Crusades_

    Child: "I want a Spiderman toy"

    Parents: "No way! We're not buying you that crap!"

    Child: "I want to be a girl!"

    Parents: "You got it!"

    2014...

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    • Pseodonihm

      I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you just referencing the show WWYD or are you making a statement about the issue?

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      • Light-Yagami

        Trolling and trying to offend people. Don't listen to Crusades, all he does is say sexist/racist/homophobic stuff he doesn't mean to try and make people mad.

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  • Avant-Garde

    They should let them be themselves but, they must teach them to have a tough skin. The price is that while they find happiness in being themselves, many of them end up committing suicide. Society needs to change its ridiculous stance on gender. This can be done through education. However, some people refuse to be educated, which leaves the only option of government stepping in.

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  • it wouldnt worry me too much , i would be easy going because they could possibly grow out of it and if not , so be it

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  • TheChakraMantra

    It's so unfortunate how people can be so hateful to others, even CHILDREN, just because something about them doesn't fit in their tiny minds of what is 'normal'. Especially if it is something that doesn't affect them in any way. That's like getting mad at someone for having blue eyes. We are evolving, that's all.

    What's funny is that the discrimination towards the LGBT community is the same as that towards black people in the past 200 years or so. And while there are still racist people today, they are the minority, and usually old, because they were present during that time, so that hate was ingrained into their minds, and today kids are taught that race is no more than a difference in skin pigment, and that there is no superior race.

    I can guarantee you that a couple hundred years from now (that is, if humans haven't bombed the hell out of each other for their petty disagreements), people will look back to this era and shake their heads in shame at how barbaric homophobes and transphobes acted towards LGBT individuals. Just like most of us do today when we look back at the KKK era.

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  • Nokiot9

    With all the evidence that we have that shows how transgender people physically and mentally differ from a "normal" person. In most cases they actually have their brain hard wired like the opposite sex, since birth. Why make them suffer till they're old enough to make the decision on their own. Take ur kid to the doctor. Get a 3d MRI and see if it's genuine. If it is, you start ur kid on hormones and switch schools.

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  • slings_and_arrows

    But what is dressing like a girl? Wearing a dress? Maybe he just thinks it looks nice.

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    • Pseodonihm

      The question is choosing a sexual identity. I just used mentioned the episode of WWYD because it inspired me to ask this question. The children I am speaking of are going far beyond simply putting on girls cloths. They are changing their names, growing their hair out, using the ladies bathroom, basically living as a girl.

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  • dom180

    I do broadly agree with you, but I'm a bit hung up on the sentence about the "repercussions". I don't agree parents should make it clear there might be a hurtful reaction from other people. For one thing, some people would say it's not always a choice. More importantly - expressing themselves as who they feel they are without having to deal with bullshit from other people is a right. They are entitled to it. If they get hurtful reactions from other people, we shouldn't teach them that it's their own fault because it's their own choice, or that they can make their problems go away by "acting normal". We should teach them that those other people are assholes.

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    • Pseodonihm

      I agree its not always a choice. And in a perfect world, I also agreeing with you. Expressing themselves as who they feel they are without having to deal with bullshit from other people is a right. But it is not a perfect world. I'm not saying anything like "hide away your gender preference." I'm simply saying the child should be made aware that people will treat them differently. To not prepare them for this fact would be a crime.

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      • dom180

        Studies show kids are aware of stereotypes, especially regarding gender, from a remarkably young age. They *know* what they're doing falls outside the "normal" behaviour for a boy, and they know will be treated differently by some people. Of course there are individual differences, and some kids won't be aware of these gender roles, but most will be. They don't need their parents or any other adult to tell them what's going to happen when they "break the rules" of being a boy, and hearing it from a trusted adult reinforces the negative message that being treated differently brings. For a kid, being told by their parents that some people will bully them and refuse to understand them is justifying the behaviour of bullies and bigots. It isn't helping a kid embrace being themselves, and that's what your number one aim should be as a parent.

        Besides that, telling them they might get bullied isn't actually doing anything helpful to prepare them. Preparing them would be sending them to see a counselor who can support them, or seeing one with them, and making sure they are in contact with people who understand them and other kids in the same position. Making sure you as a parent are properly educated about non-conformist sexualities, etc. These are the practical things that those kids need.

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        • Pseodonihm

          It is possible to possible to reassure a child in their choice and make them aware of the repercussions at the same time. We do this all the time. For example, fire. Its ok to poke and play with fire as long as it stays in a fire pit or the end of a stick, but they shouldn't play with fire when an adult isn't around because its dangerous. We don't make them believe fire is evil and will kill them now matter what. We tell them that fire "can" be dangerous and we prepare them for situations where fire is dangerous. By having fire drills and telling them to stop drop and roll, ect.

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          • dom180

            What you say about the fire drills is more comparable to what I'm saying about dealing with kids. We don't just tell kids fire is dangerous, we teach them how to deal with it and prepare them with practical "drills", the same way (for example) a counselor can prepare kids for the trauma of bullying. The way you said it didn't indicate that you supported anything other than just telling them other kids might bully them and then leaving them to it. And if you're doing all those other supporting measures, I don't see what the function is of telling them that society might not like it. It's implicit, unnecessary and unhelpful to draw attention to.

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            • Pseodonihm

              It's just being honest and forthright. You don't let your children play in the street because their is no car coming. No, you tell them to stay out of the street because eventually a car will come, and they might get hurt.

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  • Shackleford96

    I'm probably going to get flak for this, but fuck it. Someone needs to say it...

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    To me, no.

    With my own (hypothetical) children, I would not allow this. I would not allow my boy(s) to dress in girl clothing, or similar things like using the girls bathroom for instance, nor would I allow my girl(s) to go into the boys bathroom etc. I find those ideals ridiculous and appalling. However, I will say that it is not as bad for a girl to dress in boys clothing as it is vice versa. It's just not. Girls can be a tom-boy with WAY less repercussions than a boy can be if he is trying to be a girl. There's not even a real unique word for it ("tomgirl" is really just a rip off of "tomboy" when it comes down to it), and that is a point to be made too.

    Furthermore, this personal choice is my RIGHT as the parent of my own children, so if you disagree or say that I'm wrong for not allowing my would-be children to do this, then FUCK you. You have no right to tell me how I should raise my own children. That is offensive that anyone would think that way. If you allow this behavior with your children, that is fine. I may not agree with it personally, but that is your choice as the parent how you want to raise your children and it is not my place to dictate your choice.

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    • dom180

      I can't let you go without telling you that what you've said here isn't okay. I'm telling you nicely because I like you and I respect your capacity to change.

      If you have kids who are trans, you can't stop them from being who they are. All you can do by not supporting them is hurt them or drive them away. Parenting is about responsibilities, not rights. I believe one of the most important responsibilities is accepting them for who they are, regardless of whether or not they fit in, and showing them how to be resilient individuals who are comfortable not being conformists.

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      • Shackleford96

        Alright, I came off too harsh. I have much respect for you as well dom. I will try and explain myself better.

        There has long been great debates on this, but it is often claimed that people are born gay/bisexual/transgendered etc. Alternatively, I believe that many children (certainly not all of them) can be influenced. Age plays an important factor I believe too.

        I would try to influence my children to wear clothing that I find appropriate for their gender and age. This is the way I was raised, and I feel like it is normal to want my kids to be like this; like me.

        I would like to retract/modify what I said earlier though, about not allowing them to wear certain clothing. I wouldn't necessarily force my kids to wear something if they didn't want to, nor would I restrict them from wearing something if they really wanted to either, such as the boy wanting to wear feminine clothing or jewelry (dresses/bows/necklaces/bracelets/etc).

        The truth is that, when it comes down to it, that is their choice. Denying them and forcing them to my will would only foster resentment I'm sure. I would respect my kids more than that. I would encourage them to wear clothing that I consider normal for their own gender, but if they persist then I would accept it.

        As for boys using the girls bathroom and girls using the boys bathroom, no. I still do not think that it should be acceptable for this to happen. It is not appropriate.

        If it so happens that I have children who turn out to be transsexual, I would love and accept them anyway, even If I didn't like it personally. They're my children, there's no way that I wouldn't. I would definitely teach them resilience and individuality as well as many other good traits.

        I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be a little bit disappointed though, and it would not be an easy thing for me to accept... I am a heterosexual male, and I don't really know or have any experience with transgendered people. I don't even know a lot of gay people really. So it worries me, because I think it would probably be hard for me to relate to my kid(s) if they were like that, because It's not something I understand fully or have much experience with.

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        • dom180

          I understand what you mean when you say you're sometimes sceptical about people being "born" a certain way. I kind of agree, although at the same time I'm not convinced it's possible to influence someone either. It's complicated stuff and I don't know where I stand on it.

          Okay, now you're thinking :) I'll not give you any more words since I'm not exactly the best person to educate you about the lives of people who are transgender or push you any further on the topic. If you want to learn more about that stuff the internet is a good resource and good at making people and things you don't meet often in real life seem less distant. It can be hard to know where to start, but you're allowed to start slowly.

          I suppose all I have to say is that it's okay to be worried that your kids will have a hard time at school or in life, or that you would find it hard to relate to them. In that sense it's the same as worrying about having a kid who has a disability - many parents would find it stressful to deal with and don't even like thinking about it. Being comfortable about why you feel uncomfortable is a good first step.

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    • Pseodonihm

      Whoa. Slow down. In no way did I even imply you shouldn't have the right to do what you what. I simply stated, although I used the wrong tense, that in my own opinion whatever makes the child happy that should be done.

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      • Shackleford96

        Sorry OP, I didn't think that you were implying that. My comment is directed at anyone in general, not you specifically.

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