Is it normal to think being suicidal is ungrateful?

I haven't been truly suicidal to the point of attempting it, but sometimes I've thought about it when I feel particularly bad. But is it a sign of being self absorbed and ungrateful to feel that way when there's nothing very materially wrong with your life? Like not having a painful illness, living in a poverty stricken or war torn country, or an abusive household. It feels like I have no reason to feel bad, other than just lacking confidence, hating how I look and being insecure. So I just end up feeling guilty for feeling that bad at all.

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Comments ( 11 )
  • ospry

    Mental illness like Major Depression or General Anxiety Disorder are literal illnesses. If you have a mental illness and that's the reason you're feeling the way you do, then your real-life situation is completely irrelevant; the illness will make what you feel not line up with how you perceive you SHOULD be feeling

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    • Jem_Shadow

      I haven't been diagnosed with those things though, even though my doctor knows I've had bas anxiety.

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      • ospry

        My point is that, even if you haven't been diagnosed, everybody experiences symptoms of varying degree. The fact that you don't feel like you have anything to feel bad about and yet you are is kind of evidence in and of itself that not everything is great for you, whether externally or internally

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  • SkullsNRoses

    There doesn’t always need to be something catastrophically wrong in a person’s life for depression to develop, some people are just genetically predisposed to develop it.

    You did not ask to have a mental illness and having it does not make you “ungrateful”.

    Someone else’s life will always be worse than yours. Someone else will always seem more depressed than you. You still deserve help.

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  • Clunk42

    Suicide is ultimately caused by despair, which is a total lack of hope. So, the real question is: "Is despair ungrateful?" Despair is selfish and evil, but is it "ungrateful"? I would say yes. In order to lack hope, one must not be grateful for what one has that would cause one to possess hope.

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    • RoseIsabella

      One of the main things a lot of therapists ask people to do nowadays is to start a gratitude journal! I listen to my sister go on, and on about certain things that deeply upset her, because she's my sister, and I feel obligated. It's very frustrating whenever I bring up starting a gratitude journal to her, but she completely ignores my suggestions, and keeps right on obsessing about the same stuff.

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  • kikilizzo

    It's an illness to be depressed and feel that way. People who actually go through with suicide have ended up in a psychotic-like state in which they cannot think normally and have no more connection to reality. It's not a decision they make as much as it is their brains tricking them into doing it. Guilt is the most prominent emotion with depression and the whole reason why most people keep their depression quiet or talk very little about it. If it gets too bad that feeling reverses and you instead feel an overwhelming amount of guilt for being alive and genuienly believe that you are hurting your loved ones by existing and then that feeling grows until it gets unbearable. Doesn't help that a person is rarely met with any real understanding of depression and it's common to get guilt tripped for it even by loved ones. I've had my fair share of "just think a happy thought" for example... But that is why treatment is important wether it's meds and therapy or just therapy. A major reason for why suicide rates are higher for men than women is that men tend to refuse treatment because they think that makes them weak, when the real strength and sign of maturity is to seek out help for your mental health the same as you would for your physical.

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  • RoseIsabella

    I have been depressed pretty much all my life, and I have tried to kill myself three times. I'm no long suicidally depressed, and haven't been for quite a while, but I'm still depressed. I remember hearing certain people talk about how selfish they think suicide is, all throughout my life, and those people can just fuck right off!

    People really ought to refrain from speaking at length about things of which they know nothing. There are too many people in this world who know nothing about about psychology, depression, anxiety, suicide, and or mental health in general who feel that they owe it to the world to share their bullshit opinions. When one is suffering from suicidal depression the most important thing to do is to get help!

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  • bbrown95

    You're not the only one who feels that way, as I've heard others say the same thing. However, it's important to note that a depressed or suicidal person's brain does not function in the same way a non-depressed/non-suicidal person's brain does, and it has nothing to do with being ungrateful.

    Also, everyone's problems are real to them, no matter how minimal they seem to others, and that's completely normal and okay.

    Try not to feel guilty about it, as it isn't your fault you feel the way you do and you're not doing anything wrong by feeling upset about your own very real problems, just because there are others who have it worse. Don't be afraid to seek out help, either. Please hang in there!

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  • DADNSCAL

    A great therapist once asked me, "What message would your death send to people?" And no matter what your answer is, why don't you just tell people your message?

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  • Iambillythemenacetosociety

    Normal.

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