Is it normal to think christianity without laws is true?

Ever since I became a Lutheran I became an antinomian, of course there are beliefs attached to it, it's difficult to grasp, understand what Acrigola was talking about but the basic tenets are to not follow the Ten Commandments or anything in the Old Testament, but it's to be assumed the New Testament and not just the Gospel is the basis of antinomianism, Romans says "we are free from the law", basically as Christians we can do what we want, it's a freedom, salvation comes from grace alone, not the laws, which implies that we have to follow Jesus's example such as love and gentleness, and not to murder or bear false witness, we can choose any of these rules we want (to suit ourselves), if I steal data from you for instance I haven't sinned since sin is cleansed by being slaves of righteousness, I can't accept I sinned (there's no such thing as sin). Drink of the wine I say (I didn't stutter, I meant the literal alcoholic wine), and give up your home, possessions and car, after all I don't think this is a law but salvation through grace. It's even OK to do magick, and to gamble, since freedom of laws implies that whatever religion condemns you can do, even sin, we will all be forgiven in the end, since there's no such thing as sin, and this I find true, I don't have to love my enemy, I can worship idols if I want, and I can wander the cities and pubs if I want without a home, after all it's not about obedience, or about obeying your parents, it's about falling under grace, is that normal?

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  • ShrekFecker

    I mean, I'm probably just saying this because I'm an atheist, but this sounds a lot cooler than most flavors of Christianity. People who whine about everything being a sin are the worst.

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  • SmokeEverything

    I feel like there's definitely some kind of consciousness guiding us and that we live in a created place but ideological religion is pretty toxic and turns you away from your own search for answers. Have you tried shamanism?

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    • Hansberger

      I never tried shamanism and never wanted and never will want to be a shaman, I think.

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      • SmokeEverything

        Eat an 8th of shrooms and get back to me

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  • RisingSun

    The law was established to show us that we need a god (the one and only true God); however, Jesus was the last and final sacrifice. With that being said, that doesn't mean we can do as we please because "Jesus will forgive us anyway." The laws are still applicable but only some. Now, we are allowed to eat meat (Acts 10). There are many many other examples, but that's the first that comes to mind. While Jesus was sent as the propitiation, as Christians we should want to follow the will of God. By no means is it easy, but God will provide.

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  • The Bible also says something like, "Shall we sin so grace may abound?" The answer was no. Also, "If we sin willfully, there is no more offering for sin."

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  • McBean

    Hansburger, you're not taking your lithium are you? Get back on your lithium.

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    • Hansberger

      I just explained I don't need it, I'm not crazy, what you said isn't true, the proposition I don't believe is true, so I'm arriving at no belief, logic! Use it!

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      • McBean

        If you don't believe while taking lithium, then I believe you are capable rational examination of your belief. Just remember that lithium is your friend.

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        • Hansberger

          No it's not! Is this how to treat a smart person? You want them to take meds? Fuck you! You make me feel stupid!

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          • McBean

            No Hans, I never said you were stupid. You make good contributions to the IIN forums. I know that all your responses make sense to you. But, the responses that makes sense to us are the ones you make while on lithium. Thusly, lithium is the bridge from Hans to the world. Here's a diagram.

            Hans -> lithium -> World.

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            • Hansberger

              It's a nightmare! Why can't people just admit I'm not crazy, I don't want people to think I'm crazy, it's not reliable, so fuck you, stop talking to me.

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  • RoseIsabella

    Is this Hansberger again?

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    • Hansberger

      The very same!

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  • Primus

    So just do what you want without being a dick and you get eternal salvation?

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    • Hansberger

      Exactly! But I found out all things Christian, and all things Gnostic, is a lie, even Gnostic Luciferianism is a lie, the lies are subtle, for one thing Jesus is not God, for another, the Luciferian in his book 'AlterEgo' saying he is is a liar.

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