Is it normal to think that muslims are trying to take over the world?

Tell me the evidence is not there?

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Based on 110 votes (62 yes)
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  • Jfdp

    One word :Stockholm

    The more liberal inhabitants of the western world can say what they want , but Islam does have a radical fringe that travels with it wherever the religion spreads,
    Simple sociology really, most of the worlds Muslim countries have the worst standards of living on earth (Think Afghanistan etc)
    The combination of a poor uneducated youth and a immensely popular radical religion that urges violence is not a good combination, not saying that all Muslims are radical, anti western nuts-but there are many of those.

    Being a Abrahamic religion, it has the one idealistic goal in mind( Spread the faith to every corner of the earth)
    The Christian faith urges its believers to do this by peaceful means, showing those around you the light by your actions and charity

    The Muslim faith (Or atleast the form of it that radical Imams indoctrinate their uneducated followers with) Tells you to spread it with fire and sword

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    • RoseIsabella

      PRECISELY!

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    • BLAh81

      "Islam does have a radical fringe that travels with it wherever the religion spreads"

      Incorrect. Islam ITSELF is radical. The so-called "moderate" Muslims aren't truly Muslims, because they don't follow their own teachings. They're hypocrites. Say what you will about the violent "radical" Muslims, at least they're true to their idiotic teachings.

      BTW, Christianity ALSO sucks balls (not so much as Islam though, certainly not in this day and age).

      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

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      • Jfdp

        Aha but, you do realize that most of the world knew little and less about islam before the 1970's, after the Iranian revolucion the Wahhabi sect of Islam experienced an awakening that has now spread hardliner islam all over the arab world, that's my point,for Islam to be a peacefull religion again all you need to do is find a way to counteract the popularity of the Wahhabi sect and Islam can become again what it was before the Iranian revolucion - just another world religion - like hinduism or Buddism (Pardon the hell out of my spelling)

        The likelihood of this happening though? -slim im afraid, its just been ingrained too deep, allyou need to do is visit the FB page "Osama Bin Laden is Dead" and look at the back and forth semi-genocidal flamethrowing between westerners and muslims to see that this'll never just go away

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        • BLAh81

          "Aha but, you do realize that most of the world knew little and less about islam before the 1970's, after the Iranian revolucion the Wahhabi sect of Islam experienced an awakening that has now spread hardliner islam all over the arab world"

          This doesn't mean Islam doesn't suck. Sure, it may be PRACTISED in a peaceful way (by some at least), but does that mean the religion ITSELF suddenly is peaceful? Fuck no. The Qur'an is full of hate.

          "for Islam to be a peacefull religion again"

          If all Muslims were to practise their religion in a peaceful way, that would make them hypocrites, because their religion just isn't peaceful. However, while hypocrisy sure isn't great, it nonetheless is much better than violence. So let them all be hypocrites. The undermining of the popularity of the Wahhabi sect would indeed be a step in the right direction.

          "Pardon the hell out of my spelling"

          Oh, it really isn't that bad. I did notice you write "revolucion" instead of "revolution" though. Are you perhaps Spanish? My first language also isn't English BTW. I happen to be Dutch, you see.

          "The likelihood of this happening though? -slim im afraid"

          Agreed.

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  • Fabulous

    Pinky and the brain were Muslim

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    • RomeoDeMontague

      How? What?

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    • RoseIsabella

      Is it just me but did the brain have a voice like Orson Wells?

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  • _Molotov_Cocktail_

    No need to worry my friends. We don't put up with terrorists here in Russia.
    *brandishes Molotov cocktail in a protective manner

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    • robbieforgotpw

      A Russian who speaks English?
      Is that u Pootin'

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      • _Molotov_Cocktail_

        "He who learns the ways of his enemy will recieve many Molotov cocktails."
        -Russian proverb

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        • robbieforgotpw

          I slit the sheet the sheet I slit and on the slitted sheet I sit.

          Proverb of Navin from the American movie the jerk

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          • RoseIsabella

            Is that how Hasidics get it on; through a hole in a sheet?

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      • RoseIsabella

        Did you see his eyeballs when that angry, topless protester tried to attack him? It looked like they were going to explode with joy!

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        • robbieforgotpw

          I'm lost...who is 'his' referring to and who is this protester you speak of?
          Did I just wake up?

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    • Terence_the_viking

      Arsonists are ok though right?

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      • _Molotov_Cocktail_

        Only if they use Molotov cocktails.

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        • RoseIsabella

          Oh no! My sister has her bartending certificate and prefers premium French vodka.

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  • imadragon

    I've talked to many different muslims. Some do wish that Islam takes over the world, but most are just normal people.

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    • handsignals

      Or they are smart enough to not let on.

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      • imadragon

        It's the same with the whole terrorism thing too, Jihad is something that is supposed to be positive, but they have misinterpreted it completely.

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        • BLAh81

          You are SOOO wrong.

          http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Misconceptions_about_Jihad

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          • imadragon

            It's all about interpretation, the radical muslims interpret it literally, but normal muslims are smarter than that. I'm not for the Quran or the Bible in any way, I just think it's unfair to say all muslims are terrorist because of something that the Quran say. I mean not all Christians do exactly everything that is in the Bible either (like slavery and bad things.)

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            • BLAh81

              "It's all about interpretation, the radical muslims interpret it literally, but normal muslims are smarter than that."

              And where in the Qur'an does it say: "o yeah, this is allegorical, do not take it literally?" Who says it wasn't meant literally?

              BTW, "normal" Muslims aren't really Muslims, because they only partly follow Islam. They're hypocrites. At least the "radical" assholes are true to their evil religion. Say what you will about them, they ARE true Muslims.

              "I'm not for the Quran or the Bible in any way"

              A sentiment shared. Both books suck balls.

              "I just think it's unfair to say all muslims are terrorist because of something that the Quran say."

              True, that indeed IS unfair. Not all Muslims are to blame for Islamic terrorism, only SOME are. However, those are the ones who are true to Islam.

              "I mean not all Christians do exactly everything that is in the Bible either (like slavery and bad things.)"

              That's called hypocrisy. It's better than if they really DID evil stuff of course, but hypocrisy sure isn't great either.

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        • RoseIsabella

          How would Jihad be positive?

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          • imadragon

            In islam jihad is primarily self-examination and the battle against temptation and the forbidden (haram).

            Terrorists misinterpreted this as battling something that is haram (forbidden). When in reality real muslims interpret this as something personal, that every person needs to follow the religion. They need to stay away from what is haram, not exterminate it.

            This is coming from an atheist.

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            • RoseIsabella

              Thanks. I think if people seek to exterminate that which tempts them they're being really cowardly and selfish.

              If I we were to think of temptation and sin in regards of say the Seven Deadly Sins: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony I would have to say no one is immune to all of them but different people have different weak spots or defects in their character. I admit my soft spots are lust, envy and gluttony and I like sloth too. As for wrath, greed and pride they don't do much for me and don't tempt me much at all. For instance, I live in Las Vegas and don't feel a strong desire to gamble, for me personally it's just a waste of time and resources.

              It's so much better if people fight their own demons privately than try to exterminate everything out of fear which is what those Muslim fundamentalists do.

              Thanks again for your response. Still I would rather give up religion altogether than ever leave Christianity for Islam.

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      • BLAh81

        Correct. Know the Islamic principle of taqiyyah?

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      • RoseIsabella

        Precisely, you couldn't pay me to trust them!

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        • robbieforgotpw

          They're peaceful aren't they? Lolol

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          • RoseIsabella

            Peacefully following a prophet who had a child bride in a religion that oppresses women.

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            • BLAh81

              ... and Jews, and gays, and civilized people, and non-Muslims in general.

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            • robbieforgotpw

              Power farts in protest, actually sharts

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    • BLAh81

      But what about Islam ITSELF? Does it want to take over the world? Sadly, yes. We need to STOP it.

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  • OtherSide

    Geert Wilders has it right. In twenty years, the world will wish it had listened to him.

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    • BLAh81

      I disagree with some of his tactics (like wanting to prohibit the Qur'an, which is pretty stupid), but overall I certainly agree with him on Islam.

      Here's a great quote of his:

      "I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islam."

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  • Jfdp

    Listen, its easy to sit in a non Muslim country and brand every person who has a knife in for the religion an arse, but consider how your persecuted Coptic Christian in Egypt and Iran must feel.

    A persons experiences with a certain thing affect their views of a certain thing, Islam is not Evil, but the Radical fringe of it that commits atrocities all over the world each day is, pardon me if this seems biased, but how often do you here of Christian radical groups planting bombs and commiting random killings like the one that happened recently in London (British man axed to death) Sure there are4 flukes like the LRA in Central Africa and the IRA during the troubles in Northern Ireland , but they are just radical political elements, a tiny fraction of the population considering that there are 1 billion Catholics in the world according to the vatican

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    • BLAh81

      "Islam is not Evil, but the Radical fringe of it that commits atrocities all over the world each day is"

      Islam sure as shit IS evil. Sadly, "radical" Muslims TRULY follow their violent religion, which is more than can be said of "moderate" (hypocritical) Muslims. They may be nice and all, but they aren't TRULY following Islam. Islam is evil.

      http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

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  • Verity

    All of the Abrahamic religions are extremely violent and inspire and support most of the violence in the world. Judaism, Christianity and Islam have set the world afire with violence.

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    • BLAh81

      I pretty much agree; Judaism, Christianity and Islam have indeed set the world afire with violence. However, I think Islam is PARTICULARLY violent, certainly in this day and age.

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  • Moonbow

    They're certainly trying!

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  • q1w2e3

    Really? Hmm.. look at Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Syria, Mali.. I don't think they want to take over, they just want the bombs to stop exploding over their heads and live in peace just like you.

    Stop watching Fox News!

    Peace be with you! Yes I'm a Muslim.

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    • handsignals

      I suppose your going to tell us it's America dropping those bombs and there not just blowing each other up. Oh and by the way we want bombs to stop going off at our marathons, we want to walk down the street without being hacked to death, we want to be able to catch a plane without it getting crashed into a building, so don't give me that peace be with you crap.

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    • GoraIntoDesiGals

      Palestine? If they really just wanted to stop bombs exploding over their heads maybe they should stop firing them from the land Israel returned to them e.g. Gaza. They've proven once more that if you give a muslim an inch they will demand a mile.

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      • robbieforgotpw

        Lol Palestine, no such thing. It's Israel's land from Jehovah.

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        • RoseIsabella

          Amen.

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        • BLAh81

          I don't give a tinkers damn about Jehovah, but I AM glad with Israel's existence. It is the ONLY civilized country in the entire region and a major barrier against the evil of Islam.

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          • robbieforgotpw

            He loves you whether you believe or not

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            • BLAh81

              Well, if I don't believe, he will send me to hell to be tortured forever, right? What a truly loving God.

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    • BLAh81

      "Really?"

      Yeah, really.

      "Hmm.. look at Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Syria, Mali.. I don't think they want to take over, they just want the bombs to stop exploding over their heads and live in peace just like you."

      Some Muslims may want to live in peace, yes. However, a lot of Muslims don't. More importantly, Islam ITSELF wants war with non-Muslims.

      "Stop watching Fox News!"

      I live in the Netherlands. We don't have Fox News here.

      "Peace be with you!"

      When Islam backs the FUCK off, it'll be a very good start.

      "Yes I'm a Muslim."

      Nothing to be proud of.

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  • q25t

    There are certainly expansionist Muslims that want to bring the whole world under Allah. I can't fathom a guess as to what portion of Muslims fall into this category though.

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    • BLAh81

      A HELL of a lot of them, that's for sure. The non-expansionist Muslims may be nice and all, but they aren't TRUE Muslims, because Islam ITSELF is expansionist.

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  • q1w2e3

    *boo* ;)

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  • Holzman67

    christianity tried to

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    • handsignals

      I don't remember christians hacking people to death in the street, raping woman and children, blowing innocent people up. Before you say 'yes they did do that' have you got any recent examples that are specific to doing it because they are christian?

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      • Jfdp

        Good point, whenever someone points out how violent Islam is, you immediately get someone who says "Well the Christians did it too hundreds of yers ago"

        Well Christianity has largely changed
        Islam hasnt

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        • BLAh81

          "Well Christianity has largely changed
          Islam hasnt"

          No, CHRISTIANS have changed. Christianity ITSELF of course hasn't. It was a vile religion and it still is.

          Not as vile as Islam is, though, but at least its' followers are true to their evil B.S.

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          • Jfdp

            That's what I meant- the majority of people following Christianity today have a massive difference in attitude towards it than those who followed it a thousand years ago, Just think about all those thousands of translations and re translations sine the reformation, The Koran has (Apparently)never been edited. Also, do keep in mind that just like medieval Europe a lot of people in the middle east only experience the Koran through the preaches of their preachers, the Imams, who often are prone to instilling certain ideas into their followers minds to suit political agendas and such, and the followers without question, go along with it

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            • BLAh81

              It seems we largely agree then.

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      • Holzman67

        I was responding to the original question "Is it normal to think that muslims are trying to take over the world?" which my answer was Christianity TRIED to. I was referring to the missionaries throughout the ages who travelled the world and imposed christianity upon races.

        Your comment is off topic. It's not addressing muslims taking over the world you are talking about the counter attack actions of a minority of extremists.

        There are extremists in many religions.

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        • robbieforgotpw

          Your head is in the Sahara sand. You don't see a move by the terrorists to infiltrate every continent and use each country's laws against them?
          I'm glad France banned the face covering BS. At least someone is standing up to the 7th century throwbacks.

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        • BLAh81

          "There are extremists in many religions."

          Sure, but wouldn't you agree that one particular religion/ideology (Islam) has got a DISPROPORTIONALLY large amount of them?

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        • Holzman67

          If you want to read up about christian extremism, here is an article I found on wikipedia you can have a read through.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

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          • BLAh81

            I'm no friend of Christianity, but you're not making the idiotic claim that the amount of Christian terrorists even REMOTELY equals the amount of Islamic terrorists out there, right?

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  • Terence_the_viking

    I love these general questions they aren't full of ignorance at all are they.

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    • BLAh81

      Yes, the OP is indeed kinda ignorant. It's PERFECTLY obvious that some Muslims ARE trying to take over the world.

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  • DangerousPotatoGuy

    I saw a post almost similar to this one before what's up with these people

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    • BLAh81

      Reality?

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  • GirlGamerAssassin

    This is highly offensive to certain readers... :/

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  • Islam

    i am sure muslims will take all over the world, and illumnatie Will disappear if God will.

    illumnatie Controls you people.

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  • Iheartkitties

    If you understand the Quran you will know that is the case, and the purpose of Jihad. Many of the political figures in the Islamist countries are also free masons who also have an agenda for a one world order.

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  • Sacron1111

    That kind of prejudice is harmful to all of us. This fear of an entire group of religious people is, of course, as old as history. So you are just one more ignorant bigot.
    If you'd read a little you'd know that splinter groups with economic-political goals always (virtually) use religion as an excuse, a defense for their acts. These small groups have nothing to do with the larger group of decent people.

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    • OtherSide

      Read the Quran before you decide they're harmless. Do you know who's the best at following it to the letter? Al Qaeda.

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  • elenaki

    Why?

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  • EccentricWeird

    Wow... inb4 liberal feminist twats take over the entire thread. Better find yourself a cave to crawl into.

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  • q1w2e3

    Read some history please. Since you brought up Palestine.

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    • robbieforgotpw

      Biblical history... Isaac received the inheritance not Ishmael. He and his bond servant mother were kicked out of the camp. Ishmael was the father of Arabs but from Isaac and his son Jacob came the Israelites.

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      • RoseIsabella

        I'm a Roman Catholic and I love my Southern Baptist brethren!

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        • robbieforgotpw

          Do we believe the same things where it counts?

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          • RoseIsabella

            You know we do Brother!

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            • robbieforgotpw

              What about my unanswered question to you about some protester trying to attack someone...? It was posed to you earlier Rosie!

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  • RomeoDeMontague

    I can not comment either way on the matter. I am not disagreeing though.

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    • BLAh81

      "I can not comment either way on the matter."

      Why not?

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