Is the catholic church a criminal organization?

I think it is. It has terrified people with eternal hellfire for centuries, it has produced the Inquisition and all the horrors thereof, it has protected Nazi war criminals and helped them escape after the war, it has protected priests who've sexually abused innocent children, etc., etc.

It's also a batshit-insane organization. For example, those braindead motherfuckers in their ridiculous costumes ACTUALLY think that communion wavers LITERALLY become the body of Christ in their mouths!! I wonder if they ever find themselves chewing on a goddamn toenail or something...

I think it's sad that this organization still actually exists. It shouldn't exist. In a non-retarded world it would've been ridiculed out of existence a long, long time ago.

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  • Clunk42

    At least learn what we teach before trying to insult us for it.

    You shouldn't be terrified by something by something you don't believe in.

    The Inquisition was purely Spanish; as in, only the Spanish were doing it, making it a Spanish matter, rather than a Church matter.

    The Pope helped Jews to escape concentration camps.

    Priests who abuse children are punished with great force.

    Communion wavers become the flesh of Christ before they enter our mouths, hence communion via hand having been banned for many years, only instated by obvious heretics.

    We do not eat toenails, for we are not allowed to eat human body parts.

    If it shouldn't exist, it wouldn't exist, but it does, so it should.

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    • Oh, I know the utter horseshit you retarded fucks teach well enough and it truly disgusts me.

      Whether or not you believe Hell exists (I sure don't) is irrelevant. If a lot of people in your vicinity believe - or PRETEND to believe - it exists, being afraid of it (no matter how irrational) is understandable.

      The Inquisition was NOT purely Spanish, you ignorant motherfucker.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Inquisition

      Nazism could never have become so powerful without centuries of prior Catholic anti-Judaism. Catholics have demonized Jews for ages by blaming them for the death of Jesus Christ. Many Nazis were also devout Catholics. The Holocaust could never have happened without Christianity. Sure, some Catholics may have helped Jews, but does that outweigh all the harm the Catholic Church has caused Jews throughout the centuries? Fuck no. Not even close.

      The Catholic Church has absolutely protected child-raping priests, moving them to other locations where the people are ignorant of the vile creatures in their midst, for example.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimen_sollicitationis

      It's beyond hilarious that you lunatics ACTUALLY believe that communion wavers magically transform into the body of Christ. How big of a laughingstock do you fools want to be?

      WTF? Everything that exists, should exist? Do you apply that insane "logic" to pederast priests too?

      Three more things:

      1. Catholics are goddamn hypocrites. According to the "holy" Bible, Jesus often preached against the rich, yet the Vatican is a huge palace. If they actually followed their teachings, they would live in a pigsty or something.

      2. Catholics implicitly support murder. They say that AIDS in Africa is bad, but that condoms are somehow worse. Ridiculous and blatantly immoral.

      3. I think you're only a Catholic because you've been told to. Why don't you actually think for yourself, huh?

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      • Clunk42

        The whole concept of an irrational fear is that it is one that is not understandable.

        The Inquisition was still a national thing, rather than a religious thing.

        The reason people hated the Jews so much in Nazi Germany was because Christianity did not allow usury, while Jews had no issue with it. That resulted in Jewish bankers becoming incredibly rich, leading to people blaming them for the economic crisis. If the Jews had followed Christian rules, nothing bad would have happened to them. I'm not suggesting the Holocaust was good or deserved; I'm saying why your concept of its cause is wrong.

        I don't care what antipope John XXIII had to say about that.

        They've been shown to have actually been provably converted to flesh in the past.

        Everything that exist should exist. If it didn't, it wouldn't. Those pederast priests have a purpose for existing inasmuch as they do exist, so they most certainly should exist.

        1. The Papacy is supposed to guide people to the truth. In this world, as sad as it is, someone without any belongings is incapable of guiding the world.

        2. Those with AIDS are not called to have sex with anyone, and those that do are the murderers. The end does not justify the means; to allow the reduction of simple fornication to unnatural vice is not moral.

        3. Yet you use the same three sources to justify your own false thoughts about the Church.

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        • You are SOOO blatantly wrong on SOOO many fucking issues. It's beyond pathetic that you constantly bend over backwards and twist yourself like a pretzel to try and justify your deeply insane and immoral beliefs. You obviously have an intense emotional attachment to the utter poison called Traditional Catholicism, and so, desperately WANT it to be true. Unfortunately for you, though, it's DEMONSTRABLY horseshit, and inhumane horeshit at that.

          Reasoning with you won't do any good, though. You, by your own admission, are closed-minded. Well, that VERY clearly shows. You are extremely unreasonable and seem highly uneducated and brainwashed. I don't want to waste any more time on twisted freaks like you. I remember someone here calling you a sick pup. That seems quite accurate.

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  • PurpleHoneycomb

    There's likely a few individual Catholic churches that partake in shadey stuff behind the scenes. The entire church itself definitely isn't a criminal organization though.

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    • I think it is. At the very least, it's incredibly immoral.

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  • YE

    A timely confirmation of this is the Canadian Graves of Indigenous.

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    I think you are questioning whether god exists thats why ur so emotional about it and hate the religion

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    • No, I simply despise Catholicism. I don't think the God of Catholicism exists, and even if he did, I wouldn't worship him.

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      • 1WeirdGuy

        Yes you would. If you knew he existed and you were gonna burn for eternity if you didnt believe his son was his son you would say you accept jesus. Its like someone putting a gun to your head. You're gonna do what they want.

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        • I genuinely don't like the God of Catholicism. I think he's a genocidal monster. However, if I, purely out of fear, would pretend that I actually thought he was awesome and said I accept Jesus, he, as an omniscient being, would definitely find out, so why bother?

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          • 1WeirdGuy

            If there is a creator that created us and does watch over us still it would have to be a slightly evil and cruel god. I dont agree with the catholics way of portraying god because if you read the bible he's not all loving. He wants to be feared. They portray him a certain way to get more people in the church I guess.

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  • olderdude-xx

    If you study the history of the Catholic Church like I have I believe few will find any semblance of real religion and the crimes against humanity are rather high.

    So, I do believe that the OP is essentially correct.

    I believe that the Catholic Church has functioned largely as a criminal organization and little as a religious one for most of its life.

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  • Please read the very FIRST sentence:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church

    Anyway, it was about whether or not it's a criminal organization...

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  • YE

    I personally regard it a pathetic situation for an individual to be obsessed with identifying with religion and its ritual practices.

    I wake up to a new day, I give thanks. I ask for forgiveness, I pray for wisdom, I then spend a lot of time doing what I'm convinced is the right thing to do, (whether it's working or still hurts,) and let God do what he does.

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  • Grunewald

    First of all, I'm not a Catholic. At least, not with a large 'C'.

    The Catholic Church has been run by very bad and immoral people in the past, yes. And they would be criminal by today's standards. In those days though, it was above the law.

    I know that many people in the Catholic Church today are criminals, and more than criminals: they are evil. I do believe that religious organisations can have a uniquely devastating way of bringing out the worst in people. But I do not throw the baby out with the bathtub: like science, sports, education and music, the reality and identity of God is not a private thing. If God is a thing and not just a theory, then if he exists, he exists as something, and that 'something' does not shape-shift depending on individual interpretation. It makes sense to look for points of convergence in our notions of God and to explore them as a unified group, because there are lots of us and only one God.

    Also, we need intermediate institutions between the family home and the national government where we can belong on the basis of shared missions, values and interests. If we don't have them, it is hard for people to feel a sense in which they are connected to their communities. The Catholic Church (in some of its forms) does basically provide that.

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