Is the president truthful about everything?

Lol. Duh. All politicians are liars.

That's why I liked trump. At the end of the day he mostly said what we were doing, even if it wasnt the most moral thing to do. I expect the goverment to not be angels so it was more endearing than anything. At least the american people were in the loop about it.

Is the President a politician? That is how I determine if they're a liar or not. Anyone at that level of politics is full of it. Put your faith in Biden or Trump or Hillary if you want. They'll all let you down.

I just want to take this moment to share my feelings with the group, and say that the tattoo on Hunter Biden's back looks like a bunch of stretch marks. 🤣

Every single politician on this planet is a liar. Because, you know, regular human + immense power = no good

no...but whuch one is ...

They are All liars!!!

Hell no. He doesn't even know how to zip up his pants. Obama is running the show.

That's a long story just to defend the Biden's!

No matter what is on it, you don't find it strange that the FBI had information about this laptop and even had the laptop prior to the election in 2020. They have now had it for two years. If this had been Trump's or Jr's Lt, information would have been leaked and available from the FBI with in days of them knowing about it.

If you think the laptop was bad the Hillary emails were 100x worse.

But this laptop stuff is recycled news. Anyone that didnt have their head in the sand knew this laptop story over a year ago. The computer repairment said it was filled with child porn, blah blah same stuff. p3d0philia is big in the elitist culture.

It's interesting that on another forum I just did a deep dive into the purported Hunter Biden laptop and emails.

In the last 2 days I have read the original NY Post article, the NY Times article, the Fox News article (which has pictures of the subpoena and a federal receipt form for a laptop computer and a hard drive), and various update articles.

Please keep in mind that all of these articles uses terms such as "purported" and states that they could not verify certain information.

Here are the only facts I can discern:

1) A subpoena was issued for a computer and laptop from a certain computer shop; and the FBI took possession of said items.

2) The Computer Shop owner was asked to testify at a grand jury investigation concerning those items.

3) The Computer Shop owner is legally blind. While he can see a little bit and work using high powered magnifiers. He cannot recognize people by their looks at normal distances for talking to people standing in front of them (My sisters friend was like this when I was a teenager - I have a really good feel on how this works).

4) The only thing released about the computer and hard drive by the authorities is that it did not have any evidence of Russian Disinformation.

4) Rudy Giuliani supplied the NY Post in Oct 2020 in picture form (I consider pdf files as pictures) of purported emails purportedly between Hunter Biden and business people in Ukraine.

5) At the time Rudy Giuliani's job was to dig up dirt on Joe Biden as part of the Trump election campaign. Historically, creating and planting false stories is a typical part of this job for some candidates.

6) Rudy Giuliani refused to allow The Washington Post access to the supposed copied hard drive he had so that they cold examine the email data file and verify if these were actual emails.

Those are the only 6 hard facts I can nail down.

Then we have claims:

A) The computer shop owner claims that someone who claimed they were Hunter Biden dropped the laptop off, and asked them to extract the data files onto a hard drive as the computer was having problems (I note that those data files would have included the email data files - so they could be imported into another computer along with all the contact information).

That after the computer sat for 90 days, at which point he technically owned it per a standard contract clause, that he started to poke around its files and discovered some kind of "raw" personal photo's or videos that he didn't think people would want out there.... and then he also found the email files and found them interesting.

He also claims that he made some calls to people in Washington, and never heard back.

He claims that he made a 2nd copy of the hard drive and provided it to one of the people working for Rudy Giuliani.

He refused to answer questions on why he did not try to contact the Biden's or how he knew Rudy Giuliani.

He claims that then he called the FBI to report the "interesting things" on the computer. That they visited, and based on what he showed them that they got a subpoena for the computer and hard drive.

Joe Biden has claimed that he knows nothing about the laptop, and in general that he was not involved with Hunter's business arrangements or various aspects of his personal or professional life.

Hunter Biden has never said that the laptop was his, and has stated that at least some of the information that Rudy Giuliani provided was false and never happened.

So there is a computer. The FBI has it. and Rudy Giuliani released a bunch of purported emails; but also refused to let anyone see or analyze the hard-drive and the email data files.

The authorities have never said if the computer belonged to Hunter Biden or not, if the purported emails are on the computer or not, and if they are exactly the same as what the ones released by Rudy Giuliani say.

The purported emails essentially prove nothing. One purported email has Hunter telling his Ukrainian business contacts to minimize their expectations and that he has no influence on the "other person."

The so called purported "smoking gun" email that reportedly asked Hunter to set up a business meeting with the "other person" was not replied to by Hunter in the purported emails released by Rudy Giuliani.

The one saying how nice it was to meet with the "other person" could only be that they were a guest at a large dinner/reception and they had a very brief opportunity to meet with some quick social chat with Vice President Biden and shake his hand.

Multiple parties have said that Vice President Biden never had any meetings on that trip with business people. Prime Minister and at times both the Prime Minister and certain key department heads (Secretary of State, Defense Minister, etc).

Anyway - after spending 2 days researching this issue...

We don't even know if it is Hunters Laptop at all, and we don't know if the purported emails are real or not. Even if real - they clearly do not paint the picture that some are claiming (see below for how they could be real and on a different computer).

It's also very likely that Dad (Joe Biden Jr.) did not know anything about what was on his son's laptop computer (other than perhaps he had one and perhaps the brand of computer). I don't know much of the stuff on my wife's laptop.

One thing that has always personally bothered me. I know several people who run computer shops. They don't have time to browse old people's computers... and long ago tired of all the gunk on them. They just wipe them and reinstall the operating system - and then resell the computer for what they can get.

If the computer is not salvageable - they just wipe them.

All Operating Systems have some vary basic commands for wiping the files, reformatting the hard-drive, and reloading either the original or a new operating system.

Personally, this computer shop owners story sounds fishy. Who wants to take a computer to someone who is going to dig through your personal files - and turn them over to other parties, and call the Authorities if they find something they don't like. I cannot imagine a faster way to go out of business.

Here is how the emails could be real - but on another computer (I know this based on my past):

Normal emails are sent in open format on public transmission networks (Zero security or privacy)

Anyone on your local internet network that your house is connected to can read every one of your emails that you send - and read any of your emails sent to you. The message segments are coded with your account info, and your computer and internet hardware are programmed to just intercept the messages sent to just you.

With the right equipment and software you can read all the email traffic likely in your section of town or country area (and also see most everything else someone is sending and downloading as well - unless they have taken special security precautions). Note: Decades ago I played with this level of access to my internet providers network for several months. It was boring for me so I stopped doing it and the equipment and software of that decade is long gone.

It's quite possible that someone who lived in the same area as Hunter and using the same internet service provider could have recorded all of Hunter's emails sent and received, and have them stored on their computer. I would think that industrial or political spies might set such things up just to try to get information.

Note on email and internet security: VPN's will stop local people from snooping on your internet browsing and downloads. Email is a bit more tricky. You can get encryption programs - but, the other party must have the same program. protonmail.com is another option (and connect via VPN) to protect your end. The other party must do the same to protect their end. All messages within protonmail itself are encrypted and stored as such (Protonmail.com cannot read your emails even if the government gets a search warrant). There are other services as well. Do your research.