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Is there a movie that you HATE...I mean, HATE(!!) but not because of the movie itself but because of a bad association you have with the film?
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Wow, this is disappointing! Only like 3 people answered properly. Parrish NAILED it. Good job kingsleycrowne and howaminotmyself! The rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
How about "The Hunt for Red October"?
It was unrealistic and totally not like that the time I stole a nuclear ballistic missile submarine. This made for a bad assosciation.
Ha! I understood your question and considered answering about a film I saw just before breaking up with someone but it would have been a bit of a lie because it didn't really affect my view of the film that much.
So I chose to answer just part of your question by picking films that aren't bad overall but have some individual attribute I saw as bad. I do know it's not what you asked but it allowed me to give a better answer. Hmm, which I guess is what politicians do. Muchos apologios!
*I chose to answer just part of your question by picking films that aren't bad overall but have some individual attribute I saw as bad*
The title led me to believe he was asking that more or less. More precisely, I interpreted it as "which movies do you consider good but hate anyway for some reason (not external to the movie itself)?". Then I entered and found it wasn't exactly like that, but said "oh, fuck him, I'll just write what I came in to write and to fuck with everything". The truth is, as I've said many times already, IDGAF.
Jurassic Park and Titanic. Neither are *bad* films but I hate the way they were realised. It doesn't help that I hate both Jeff Goldblum and Billy Zane and can't look at them without wanting to punch them very hard.
But Titanic? You've got an incredible (and true) story with a hugely opulent and "unsinkable" liner being stricken on her maiden voyage with the loss of one and half *thousand* souls and this hasn't enough human interest in itself? You need to add something else to it, like bookend it with the vastly more important tale of an old woman finding her necklace? What an insult.
Yeah I have to agree with you about The Titanic. Great movie, but they should have called it something else if they were so intent on focusing on the tragic romance between boy and girl rather than the greater tragedy surrounding them. Now when people say Titanic, the first thing conjured is the image of Leonardo DiCaprio freezing to death and Kate Winslet being drawn naked.. rather than hundreds of people dying in a real-life tragedy.
Imagine if a film came out called 9/11... That focused on Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan falling for each other whilst they both work in The World Trade Centre. Ryan is a high-flying businesswoman with a stern attitude and strong work ethic... Whilst Hanks is the witty mailman who delivers the office post every day and always teases Ryan, breaking down her cold facade over time until Ryan finds herself looking forward to Hanks turning up. They consummate their burgeoning relationship in a utility cupboard. Then the planes hit! Both trapped under the rubble, Hanks manages to free both of them by lifting up a large bit of debris, but once Ryan crawls free, Hanks is crushed when a wall collapses behind them. Meg Ryan stands at ground zero 50 years on, looking upward, clutching a man's watch, still dusty from the tragedy that befell them those years ago. She digs a hole in the soil nearby and pushes the watch in there. Goodbye Tom Hanks... Goodbye.
I think that might raise a few eyebrows.
That's perfect. The 9/11 analogy is exactly what I was trying to say. And the idea that people may think of Titanic as a love story is something I would have said if I'd have thought about it.
I can't remember where I saw it but there was a newspaper report about a recent ferry accident and the headline was something like "Real-Life Titanic Disaster". Words fail me!
Haha I saw that not long ago! I couldn't find it on YouTube (I think it has been removed, probably because the production studio was embarrassed) but here is another link:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=620_1327594937
Sort of sums up the worst of US TV huh :P
That's the one! In my head I can virtually hear Charlie Brooker being scathing so it must have been on 2012 Wipe or something.
It seems particularly odd in that the Americans (and British) lost more people than any other country. It doesn't seem like it should be forgotten.
I once read about a kind of cinema, I don't recall the name, characterized by the fact that the story doesn't happen to certain individuals, but to entire groups of people. There is an ideological motivation to that. Titanic, of course, represents the exact opposite ideology, so it makes sense that they made it about individuals.
So many... let's see.
2001 A Space Odyssey - boring as fuck
Citizen Cane: I don't know, I just didn't see what all the fuzz was about.
Cape Fear - too pretentious
Lord of the Flies - the ending has a very disturbing message
Back to the Future - well, actually, those ARE bad, it's not me
Forrest Gump - I loved it and everything, but it has a horrible capitalist notion in it: when the guy has no luck at his business, he prays to god and they say like, a storm destroying all of your competitors is a blessing from above. Plus they are very reluctant to openly admit the obvious fact that the US was the actual evil invader in the Vietnam war.
Those are all I can think of right now, I may ad more.
It's absolute crap. The dialogues are so annoying, like, every single time the guy has to refer to his dad he says "dad, I mean, sorry, Mc. Fly... I don't know why I called you dad, I mean, you are my dad and I know about it but you don't, so I should call you by your real name" explaining to the audience a million times the same thing, insulting their intelligence.
Plus, the whole concept of time travel as treated in the film has contradictions all over.
Rain Man - I think Tom Cruise's acting is despicable.
Dog Day Afternoon - it's very easy to defend a hostage taker when sitting comfortable at home. The people who made that film deserve to be in an actual hostage situation and learn their lesson.
The Merchant of Venice - it's not in the film itself, but on the original play. The ending is absolute bullshit, and you have to be very stupid to buy into it. The defense's argument is retarded and could have only been conceived by someone who knows absolutely nothing about legal procedures.
Patch Adams - it's a great film with a lovely message to it, but does it have to have that many cliches in it? Does the hero have to be taken to trial? Does he have to give an emotional speech that will make everyone rise and applaud? Does it have to seem like he has no chance of winning, but then he wins in the end? I could go on.
American Beauty and Magnolia. Pretentious, they tried too hard in my opinion.
Aw I loved American Beauty.
The bag bit does make me laugh, but everything else I thought was great. The dialogue, the depiction of a suburban middle-class family sick of pretence and routine, the fact that the wife/mother had a midlife crisis spurred on by the husband/father's midlife crisis, Thomas Newman's soundtrack... I can see how the disembodied voice of Lester introducing the tale, the weird guy a sort of 'troubled artist' filming some dead things and imbuing it with great meaning, the end etc. could be seen as pretentious, but I felt like there was too much other stuff that was good to be spoilt by those features.
Oh well, each to their own :P
Ah, I really disliked the characters. They all felt like annoying cliches and just really predictable. The sort of thing that makes me roll my eyes. I feel like it's the kind of film I should like, but it just felt like they tried way too hard to be all deep and clever or whatever. I prefer it when a film isn't so blatant about what it's trying to get across. Yeah, we get it, small things are beautiful! Maybe if I had better taste I'd like it:P.
Ah, I love Annette Bening's character! Nobody ever mentions her when talking about this movie. She's so stereotypical and hilarious. :)
Ha I think your points are perfectly fair! In a way I'm surprised I like it.
I felt like the family were superficially archetypical and clichéd, but really they were trying to fit into these prescribed roles and had been doing so for so long they needed to self-destruct in order to find some relief. The way they each broke away was also fairly predictable - a sort of regression to adolescence, but that is more believable to me than if they'd done something wildly different and original; most people who go through these periods of recklessness do so in a conventional and familiar way (taking drugs, impulse buying, adultery etc.).
For me, it wasn't a story any larger than the breakup of middle-class families in Stepford-wives' American suburbia. I just loved the dialogue, the tension around the dinner table, the way the story unfolded. I didn't feel like it was saying 'small things are beautiful' at all... I felt like it was saying, sometimes people desperately pursuing the 'ideal' fail to acknowledge how utterly wrong the 'ideal' is for them - and end up shooting themselves in the foot (or other people... In the head).
As I say though, each to their own :) I think your points are valid.
One thing I find interesting is 3 films that are in my rough top 20 feature a guy in a 9-5 job sick of the routine and breaking away - The Matrix, Fight Club and American Beauty. I'm thinking perhaps that cliché appeals to the rebel within me ha >:)
Haha, you're making American Beauty sound good now with all this film talk! Ack, I'm not that deep.:P
Ooh, I loved the Matrix, though! But not the second and third ones, those were disappointing.:/ First one was fantastic, though. Still not sure how I feel about Fight Club, even though I watched it ages ago. I think I like it. Maybe I should watch it again.
I felt the same way about The Matrix trilogy. It would've been perfect had they left it at one film. Instead they spoilt the universe with too much detail, too many other characters, convoluted philosophy and excessive CGI. I used to play the Matrix at school - me and friends would see how far we could bend backwards whilst pretending to be shot. We also played Spiderman when climbing up trees and roofs (the aforementioned-in-the-other-post Toby Maguire one) Memories :*)
I think I enjoyed Fight Club more the 2nd time actually. I'd recommend giving it another go. It has its insufferable fan boys though ha one of my friends actually tried to set up his own fight club after seeing the film and failed (lucky for him).
Blah! I feel the same. I actually own them both on DVD (based on the recommendations of others) and I just hate them. Especially American Beauty. I know I've talked about it before but it looks like someone in Hollywood has seen a plastic bag blowing about in the wind and thought "How can we expand this to 90 minutes"?
As for Magnolia, the only good bit was Tom Cruise giving that interview. He comes across as *such* a twat. Good on him for doing it.
American Beauty is my least favourite of the two as well. Don't even get me started on that bloody plastic bag! Pfft! It's probably my least favourite scene, which is saying something, considering the way it ends is so condescending! The bit where he's yapping on all "waaah, there's so much beauty in the world waaah, it's so beautiful, it's just too much, blah blah, other pretentious crap, blah blah. Oh, and did I mention how much beauty in the world there is?" Well, not quite those words:P. Anyway, then he says something like how we have no idea what he's talking about (how would he know, the stupid fictional character!), but don't worry, we will someday. That one pissed me off. The characters were the worst, every single one of them. I can't think of one thing I actually like about that film.
And Magnolia didn't make much sense to me. Why did it start raining frogs? What?! Frogs! Why!? Although, it's probably bad for me to dislike a film just because I don't understand it.:P
Grrr! Maybe I just don't like films made in 1999 with flowers on their DVD cover thingys. So only two that I know of:P. Wowza, sorry about that! Got a tad aggressive there. Damn films!:P
All of American Beauty annoyed me but that bag stuff stands out. Maybe I'm looking at it too literally but I can never get past the point that it's litter. I *think* I can see the point they were trying to make but it's just... arrrrgh! I really admire Kevin Spacey but I just hated his character here. Maybe it was good acting on his part but he was just so unlikeable. In fact, all of them were.
The frog thing in Magnolia, I'm not sure, but the way I took it was of the significance of chance and randomness. I mean the whole film is about our connections (and meaning) and then they showed how something ridiculous and not connected to anything could have greater significance in our lives. What better ridiculous thing to choose than animal rain (which does happen and is pretty weird)? However that's just a personal theory (because without it, it makes no damn sense at all). I tend to want to give the benefit of the doubt to Magnolia for the stupid reason of really liking the Aimee Mann songs in it. :P
"the way it ends is so condescending! The bit where he's yapping on all "waaah, there's so much beauty in the world waaah, it's so beautiful, it's just too much, blah blah, other pretentious crap, blah blah. Oh, and did I mention how much beauty in the world there is?" Well, not quite those words:P. Anyway, then he says something like how we have no idea what he's talking about (how would he know, the stupid fictional character!), but don't worry, we will someday. That one pissed me off."
You just missed the truth in that film, BIGTIME. Watch it again when you're older, you may get what what everybody else with a brain got out of it. It's not considered a masterpiece because it's stupid, think about that end scene.
If you found it condescending you must realise that you have no experience in facing mortality, and it tries to help you do so.
Kevin Spacey's ending monologue, everyone who hates it fails at understanding life. Though I've certainly never met anyone who didn't get it and love it before. You must be a very confused and sad human being. Condescending?! Bwahahaha.
It's just weird that someone who couldn't make heads nor tails of a film has a valid opinion.
You need to understand it first before you can decide on it's being good or not.
My opinion on astro-physics is invalid because I know too little about it in order to have something valid to say on the subject. That's what I feel "bananaface" has encountered with American Beauty. Note that "disthing" was able to describe some of it's meaning due to understanding, hence an opinion to be noted.
Fight Club
BECAUSE
I hate HATE movies where it's the same person the whole time. I wish it would be made clear at the beginning because after I watch it and find out..I really just feel like I've wasted my time...if that makes any sense. Fight Club isn't the only movie like that but it's the one that's always burned into my mind since everyone always says how great a movie it is. Gr.
SCHINDLER'S LIST was mesmerizing, i've seen it twice, but the subject matter was traumatising.
Bridges of Madison County. Terrible directing - terrible screen play - a 10 minute script stretched to 2 hours.
As much as I love Johnny Depp, I have to say that Benny & Joon is difficult for me to watch because of the part where Joon has a mental breakdown/meltdown on the bus. It hit way too close to home for me because I have mental health problems and I've been in situations like that before.
Although, I'd like to give the movie another try because I've only seen it once and it wasn't bad by any means. (And... if you'll excuse me for fangirling... I thought Depp's character in Benny & Joon rivaled Edward Scissorhands in the "adorableness" department. I mean seriously, who can resist a character who makes grilled cheese sandwiches with a clothes iron!?)
It pisses me off when they make awesome movies and cast such dweebs like Kevin Bacon.. WTF!
See, I'm Australian so it seems that naturally I should be proud of that ridiculous musical movie "Australia".
I'm not proud, I'm nowhere near proud. If anything, I am disgraced. Nicole Kidman is the worst actress in the entire world. Every movie that woman has played a role in had been boring as anything. It's her, she's boring and I cannot stand to watch a film for more than 5 minutes if her name appears in the cast.
I hate you, Nicole Kidman.
Certien movies I will hate because the actor. So anything with the white guy from green hornet I hate. I have 3 actors I absolutely hate. I find them annoying.
I hate Eragon, because it's not what I imagined when I read the books. It wasn't bad, but not what I wanted.
ALL THE SERIES OF TWILIGHT. i hate Bella for most. hhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Harry Potter 6. Don't get me wrong I'm a Potterhead, I read all the books at least 3 times but the sixth movie was boring and shitty compared to book.
Freedom Writers was 'based on a true story', although there were a few liberties taken. But why did you find it racially offensive?
I thought it was a cheesy, clichéd movie trying hard to pluck on everybody's heart-strings which might feel inspirational to people under the age of 15 but otherwise falls flat. But I think the racial elements were based on the true story - the self-segregation by students based on race, the teacher was white, the use of the holocaust as an example of when prejudice and profiling are taken to the extremes.
I mean I did see the superficial 'white middle-class woman saves non-whites living in the ghetto' premise and roll my eyes, but the message was deeper than that, the film just failed to portray it in an intelligent, subtle way and went for schmaltz instead... And I really don't like Hilary Swank in it. Eurgh.
I didn't find anything offensive about it, but it did seem kind of dull in many aspects. The name they gave the book, for example, "freedom writers", wtf?
Queen of the Damned.
I am not into Vampires, but I gave this one a chance. I don't know if it's actually bad but as I was watching it, my ex was just so psyched that it has so many Metal/Goth/Underground Rave overtones to it that I saw it as just a depiction of some sub-cultural fantasy fiction. Like those Harry Potter fanfics where they turn Harry Potter into omg such a emo goff metal head and Hogwarts is an emo goff school. That's what it looked like to me. I think they overdid it on the sub-culture-centrism.
That bothered me so much because not only do I lack respect for that particular type of film but I just could not take the omg goff rave thing seriously, so to me, the movie, good or not, sucked.
Avatar: the last airbender. Technically, it was a decent movie at least. I watched the show beforehand though and it was an absolute mess compared to the show.
Also Percy Jackson for the exact same reason.
Snowtown. The film is brilliant but it is about an Australian Serial Killer who tortured people in suburbian South Australia. As I am Australian, it just hits too close to home for me. He is torturing people while the cricket and Rex Hunt's fishing adventures is on tv in the background. I watched it and it unsettled me so much I actually still feel quite psychologically scarred by it. So I'll never watch it again.
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
Jack N. is a complete self indulgent punk who tries to stick it to the man and fails miserably.
Everything I've read about electroshock therapy counters what is portrayed in the movie. It is not a punitive procedure that turns one into a vegetable.
It's a crappy '70s antihero movie that everyone just falls all over themselves about, but I don't see it. Very depressing movie with a flawed message. If I want to see a "good" crappy '70s antihero movie, I'll stick with "Vanishing Point".
Anything by D. W. Griffith is bound to be very good from a technical standpoint but also very racist. So… Birth of a Nation? Intolerence? Broken Blossoms?
City Slickers II: The Legend of Curly's Gold.
I was raped with that on in the background.
Yes!
I don't hate it because of the movie itself. And I love some of the actors in it. But I hate it because of the fans of the movie. It is probably very good, but I wouldn't know. Everytime I've tried to watch it people talk over it the entire time. Even when I try to sit down by myself and watch it I'm sure to get interrupted with, "this is a great part" and then they proceed to quote the actors and laugh themselves silly. Why was that part funny? I missed it with your loss of self control...
But dare I admit which film I am refering to?