Is this a good way to approach women or is it too creepy?

College single guy here. My scheme for getting women this year goes like such :

There's a big cafateria that open all day and I just go there and look for why girls sitting alone. Then I come up to them with a plate of food and say "Mind if I eat with you?" Is she says no I say okay and leave. If she says yes I sit down and politely ask her about herself. I'm taking benign questions like "year in school, major, dorm, where they came from ect" then I slowly whittle the conversation towards more sexual slash relational things. If she backs off then I back off as well and we finish eating and leave. If she shows interest I up the ante to the point where I get her number. If you were a girl how would you react to this if you were single? If you were a guy does this sound like a good plan?

(Female) I wouldn't mind it if I were single 21
(Female) eww that's too confrontational 29
(Male) good idea and its harmless 18
(Male) eww that's too confrontational 15
Other, comment please! 11
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  • CountessDouche

    All good & actually quite nice, until you get to the part about "wittle her down to sex" talk or whatever. That's just a big fucking no. 99% of people absolutely DO NOT want to discuss sex with a stranger whom they just met. I'd totally be creeped out if someone I just met brought up sex.

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    • 19sammi91

      Was gonna say something similar.. harmless enough until OP brought up sex..

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      • Doesnormalmatter

        If she doesn't show enough interest I don't bring it up at all.

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        • 19sammi91

          One would like to hope not.. if someone started the sex convo I'd either shut them down or stare st them lol

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            Yes that agrees with my experience lol. Be VERY careful when you bring up sex.

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    • CozmoWank

      I say he should just plop down next to her and ask "Are you a squirter?"

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      • Softlips123

        Absolutely not! :) That’s pretty funny though.

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    • RoseIsabella

      Right on!

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      • Doesnormalmatter

        If she doesn't show enough interest I don't bring it up at all.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Well I would save that for maybe 10 or 15 minutes into the conversation. Or even not at all if she's giving off bad signals like avoiding eye contact or acting nervous. If she's doing that than bringing up sex is a waste of my breath.

      But please understand that when I say "whittle it towards sex" I'm not talking about asking for sex, or asking her favorite position or whatever. I'm talking about things like :
      "Have you ever had a relationship before?" or even just complementing her appearance or asking if she's free later that day/night.

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      • CountessDouche

        Women dont perceive "have you ever had a relationship before" as a sex question, they perceive that as you expressing an interest in having a relationship with them.

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        • einexile

          Few people want to be questioned like that directly even on a date. It shows that the person initiating the encounter is awkward and cannot respect or participate in the natural flow of a conversation, but is working through an agenda and has no real interest in talking.

          Well, talking is how people reveal who they are to someone, so if they want to hurry through conversation with you this reveals their interest is only in your body. There's nothing wrong with being interested initially because of a woman's body, or even mainly because of her body, but if you don't care at all about what's in her head, you need to be at an established nightlife spot known for this sort of thing, or on a casual dating app. College can be a lonely place, especially for whoever you happen to spot sitting alone, and being approached by someone who might be curious about a romantic connection or maybe just want to be friends, only to find that they just want to cut the crap and lure you into bed, is a depressing experience.

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          • CountessDouche

            Zack-it-tally mother fucker & you have an lovely way with words.

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          • palehorse

            > Few people want to be questioned like that directly even on a date. It shows that the person initiating the encounter is awkward and cannot respect or participate in the natural flow of a conversation, but is working through an agenda and has no real interest in talking.

            Maybe it's just me. But I think everyone would benefit if we're a bit more direct about our wants - in all contexts, not just this one.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              Yes! I'm glad your on my post. I have heard that a lot to that you should really let her talk about herself a lot to make her feel more comfortable.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            Have you been to college in the US? If so then how recently? Sex after a first date is quite a stretch but if I can get things serious just to get a phone number or another date planned how is that still a depressing experience?

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            • einexile

              We aren't just talking about approaching a girl for her number, but doing so under false pretenses in the opening week of the semester, when quite a few people are still looking to make friends, especially people who are eating by themselves.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          I know. Expressing interest is the first step in whittling things towards sex. If the first interest you show is asking her favorite position, you are most likely dumped.

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      • GaelicPotato

        How about you just don't

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Too horny. Also girls are nice to talk to.

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  • Softlips123

    While everyone’s different, I think this is how I would react:

    I think I’d find it really nice if a guy asked to sit with me. I think it would make me really happy. And the conversation seems fine until maybe the sexual things. Depending on what specific type of sexual things are said I might think he might just want sex. And if I thought a guy might only want sex, I’d feel apprehensive about developing a connection with him, because I’m personally not interested in having a connection with someone that’s primarily about sex.

    Also, I personally prefer to not talk to most people about anything involving my relationship history, especially with someone I don’t know very well. I’m fine with questions along the lines of “Are you single?” though.

    I also generally prefer adjectives more like beautiful or cute rather than hot or sexy.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Thanks for the reply this is very helpful!

      I know sex and relationship talk is pretty awkward so I would only bring that up if she is showing good signs of attraction. How would you best like a guy to go about asking for a phone number afterwards?

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      • Softlips123

        I don’t know. You could try giving her your number instead.

        If a guy I didn’t know very well asked me for my number, I’d probably either feel awkward about explaining that I don’t give my number out to people I don’t know very well, or I might give my number and feel hesitant, not sure if I really should’ve because I don’t know him very well. This would still probably be the case for me even if I liked him a lot.

        If a woman doesn’t want to give you her phone number, it might be because she doesn’t feel comfortable giving out contact info to someone she doesn’t know very well, or she might be shy. It doesn’t necessarily correspond to whether or not she feels attracted.

        Also, even if a woman’s attracted to you, it doesn’t necessarily mean she’d feel comfortable with it if you brought up sexual things.

        I also think that when applicable, genuine compliments about things not related to appearance or body are really nice. While I’ve been very flattered by being called beautiful, I also really have loved it when guys have complimented me on something I’m good at.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Yeah I get that that could be awkward. Not sure what else to do though. Maybe I should just ask if she wants to meet again for another meal there later that day and pick a time?

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          • Softlips123

            Sounds good. :)

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              K thanks so much for the feedback. Probably gonna try again today.

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  • Boojum

    Along with all the other valid points raised by those who are unimpressed with your plan of attack, you might want to consider the fact that women talk about guys.

    The woman in your hypothetical scenario might be sitting alone when you spot her, but that doesn't mean she knows nobody on campus. Try this approach a few times, and I bet you'll soon start to encounter women who have heard that you're a creep and either avoid getting anywhere near you or let you know what they think of you if you should say anything to them.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      It's not weird to do this at my school. I am not sure where your perception comes from but there is guys doing way creepier things than this. I don't think its creepy to be nice in converstaion and let her talk a lot about herself for 15 minutes and then ask for a phone number? This isn't a get laid now scam, if that's what I wanted I wouldn't go for the shy girls. I know that's what you expected from me but please understand that's not what this is.

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  • RoseIsabella

    When I'm alone, and eating I'm usually reading, or messing around on my phone. I would feel kinda put upon to have a stranger just ask to join me. Yeah, I think what you're describing sounds kinda creepy, and like a great way to ruin some girl's nice meal that she took herself out to if she's not into you.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      If she's not into me she can just say no.

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      • bleedingdiarhea

        But you want to word yourself and present yourself in such a way that she IS into you right?

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          That's the idea, hopefully my practiced opening line and fine tuned demeanor along with what I consider good physical attractiveness will be enough to get her into me at first. Once she is a hair "into me" then I can slowly reveal my personality and kindness and things like that. The physical aspect is just to get my foot in the door if you catch my drift.

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          • RoseIsabella

            You've been reading that pickup artist crap, huh?

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            • palehorse

              Putting thought into your conversations and interactions isn't automatically "pickup artist crap."

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              Not really. It's pretty intuative actually although I can fine tune the method based on some advice given on line. The 'crap' is where they give you a string of responses to memorize based on what she says. Now that sounds like an awkward date for her lol.

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        • RoseIsabella

          Yep.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            How would you suggest I do that Rose?

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            • CozmoWank

              Plop yourself down next to her and ask "Are you a squirter?" Women like a man who's direct.
              Listen to your Uncle Cozmo.

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            • RoseIsabella

              I don't have any suggestions, just don be an annoying creeper.

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  • Nikkiice1

    Wait until she finishes eating. I've had a guy do that to me before.. I felt uncomfortable. Once she's done eating, she would probably mentally be prepared to have a conversation with you.. you'd most likely have better results

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    • RoseIsabella

      I like what you're saying!

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      But then she can just leave at any second. The food makes it so once she agrees for me to sit with her she has to stay at least a certain amount of time. This gives me an opportunity to facilitate attraction from her.

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      • CountessDouche

        Ok so- you know my comment the other day about how you are creepy & a bit rapey. Like, I'm way to lazy to comb the site looking for examples & reply in detail, but this is a pretty good one, right here.

        You: Oh, she doesnt want to be here.
        You: Oh ok, well, I could just leave
        You: Oh, she feels to awkward to tell me to leave
        You: Well, I'm just...even though I'm aware of how she feels..I'll just stay here anyways& she HAS TO STAY because she has food & HAS LESS OF A CHOICE
        You: I'll just ignore how she feels & try to use that to my advantage & manipulate her in order to get sex

        You: I'll just ignore the fact that she feels uncomfortable & freaked out & just...go ahead

        Its fucked up, so bad. Do you not see it at all??? The fact that you even WANT someone to stay & 5alk to you when they obviously feel uncomfortable, but feel obligated...that is sooooo messed up lol

        This is not normal, man. :(

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        • Grunewald

          Keyword Countess Douche said here: 'someone'. A girl is a someone.

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          • CountessDouche

            That's right & you explain it better than I ever could! Hope you're doing well :)

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          It's a shy girl and they take time to warm up to people. She will feel awkward but she won't not want to be there. So from her perspective it's like she wants to stay but she doesn't know why yet. If you think a guy sitting next to a girl talking about regular things is rapey and messed up than please take note that THATS WHAT EVERYONE DOES AT MY SCHOOL!

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      • Grunewald

        Girls can (generally) only consider a guy a romantic prospect once they feel safe and respected - not like a kind of prey. We like to feel that we are being treated as human beings with dignity, you see. Imagine that deep down beneath that pretty exterior, she will hate being disrespected just as much as you would.

        If you try to 'trap' her while she's eating and she wants to leave but can't, it doesn't matter how long you spend with her, she is just going to dislike you more as time goes on and nothing you say or do will change her mind, because she'll feel harrassed, just like you would.

        'facilitate attraction'??
        Look, the girl's feelings are hers, not yours. If you try to lay hold of what isn't yours by manipulating it out of her, of course she won't feel safe or respected around you.

        Just don't talk about sex at all.

        I usually don't start liking a guy in a romantic way until I've known him for a while - like weeks, not minutes. Even if I had really disliked him at first. Personality is a major factor for girls. When a guy appears to start coming onto us by talking sexual and we aren't into him in that way, we get the 'ick' factor. It's gross.

        In sum - most girls need to get to know a guy before they might consider him as someone they could realistically sleep with. And they like to feel safe and respected. If they feel trapped, disrespected or like you're manipulating them or not treating them like an equal human being to yourself, they will probably want to put as much space between the two of you as possible, and virtually no amount of time or trying will change that. If someone did that to you, you would just think they were a horrible person. Well girls are the same.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          It's not about getting laid right afterwards. I would have nice conversation for 10-30 minutes and then quickly try to get a number or set up another date. This could change based on her signals. If she shows extreme attraction than I move things along, If she shows significant discomfort than I'll be nice and leave.

          Your not wrong that girls like to know you first, it's just that some girls don't want to know a guy THAT much before they have sex. College girls can be very open sexually especially compared to older folk like yourself.

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          • McBean

            You're confusing Chads and Stacys with average people. If you just want to hook up, go to parties and be a pleasant jerk. It might work for you.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              What do you mean be a pleasant jerk? I'm not a huge fan of parties and don't wanna touch alchohal.

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          • Grunewald

            I was a college girl, 10 years ago...

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              Okay. That's not totally irrelevant although things have changed since then a little bit. Some girls are more open sexually than others.

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      • blinkeredharlot

        You should write a book on how to sound like a sexual predator

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Everyone thing I'm nice irl lol maybe I'm just good at acting. She can leave it would just be awkward to live mid meal. That AND she should have known what she was getting herself into when she agreed to let me sit down.

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          • blinkeredharlot

            For someone who likes to talk about consent, you don't seem to understand how it works.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              Uhhhhh. I ask to sit down, she says no, I leave. I ask for phone number, she says no, I don't set her number. I ask for sex and she's says no, no sex. If that's not how it works than I have no idea what consent is.

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      • RoseIsabella

        Ugh.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          What's wrong? She can still leave it would just be awkward.

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          • RoseIsabella

            It's not cool to put a person in a position where it would be awkward for him, or her to leave. I don't like weird salesmenish tactics to try to be friendly, or get know to someone where it's hard to break away, or say no.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              If I can tell she is very uncomfortable than I would leave. But I'm a nice guy and so I doubt she would rather be alone unless I'm talking about sex or something.

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      • bleedingdiarhea

        If she just leaves at any second then you weren't effective man. You want to be effective right? You want her to WANT to stay and talk, at least for a minute.

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        • RoseIsabella

          If she just leaves any second then she's not interested, and it's her right, and prerogative to leave whenever she wants to do so.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Of course I do! What excatly is your point? I'm saying it would be awkward for her to leave mid meal so to avoid that she is more likely just to stay with me.

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          • mauzi

            ... yes, that’s creepy.

            Don’t take this the wrong way but are you by chance a bit autistic? You might wanna get yourself checked out if you genuinely can’t see anything wrong with that statement.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              If she's obviously uncomfortable I would leave lol. I'm not a psychopath or autistic.

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          • CountessDouche

            What? That's not normal, dude. Normal people dont want someone to feel obligated to talk to them because they feel awkward leaving?

            Why would you think that's an ok way to feel? Why would you want to TRAP someone into talking to you. Are you really that narcissistic that you are totally ok with them feeling uncomfortable, as long as you get what you want?

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            • Boojum

              "Why would you want to TRAP someone into talking to you."

              This sounds to me like a typically manipulative manoeuvre used by Pick-Up Artists. I bet the OP has been hanging out in the yucky corner of the internet where those desperately horny, fundamentally misogynistic guys hang out. It's immediately next door to the incel swamp.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              If I can tell she is uncomfortable than I would leave. Simple as that. But if I'm talking about innocent things I have a hard time believing she would rather be alone than with me. Everyone thinks I'm nice irl I must be presenting myself poorly on iin lol.

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  • palehorse

    I think it's fine based on the post / comments, assuming you have normal social skills.

    Personally, I feel like the commentators here are too quick to dismiss any man who thinks things through beforehand instead of winning girls (or guys, if he swings that way) over with pure spontaneous grace as creepy. Not everyone is that socially adept, and even if they are, they might still choose to plan stuff out and that's ok. I'm not sure what y'all expect...

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Thanks for the reply! I think part of it is that I talk so much about sex and how horny I am on iin that people assume I'm trying to prey on innocent girls just 5o get off. I don't really blame people for assuming that but irl I'm a lot nicer and less blatant about sex ect. I treat women with respect, although I'll be the first to admit that I haven't always done a good job at that.

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      • blinkeredharlot

        https://www.isitnormal.com/post/is-it-weird-to-talk-about-sex-so-casually--285537

        That's why we "assume" you're gonna be a creeper.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          That was a troll post lol why you care so much?

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      • palehorse

        Yeah, that sounds fair. We're all a bit different online.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Yeah some of us are way different. If you just so happened to meet me irl you would be rather confused.

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  • sillygirl77

    obviously you don't want feedback even though you asked for it. You're just dismissing everyone who doesn't agree with you. For the record I think you're creepy.

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    • blinkeredharlot

      This right here

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      What if I don't mention sex the whole time? Is it creepy to talk for 30 minutes and ask for her number at the end if she seems into me? If that's creepy than what do you make of the gay guys on my dorm floor going door to door asking guys if they can take their "anal virginity"? If what I do is creepy, then what do you call that? People are looser about sex at college...

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      • blinkeredharlot

        Lol "someone else is doing something shitty so that excuses me doing something else shitty." Have you ever considered treating a woman as anything but a potential fuck toy?

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          Why yes I have considered that. That's why I have nice conversation first. Not a single woman has thought this was creepy so far. They either don't let me sit with them, or they do let me sit down and we have a normal and polite conversation. Girls do this type of thing to guys all the time as well.

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  • raisinbran

    Seems like it'd be annoying to the person you're approaching, who is probably sitting alone for a reason. You'll be known as the guy who goes around unsuccessfully hitting on random girls. No one will take you seriously.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Even just with having regular conversation? And asking her first? I'm very nice about it and people do way creepier things in US colleges in 2019.

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  • DIO

    Don't make plans when talking to a girl. That never works.
    Girls are not the same and what could work with one won't work with another.
    Simply be yourself, kind and spontaneous and don't be a schemer.

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    • palehorse

      You were expecting a normal reply... but it was I, DIO!

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      • DIO

        NANI?!

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        • palehorse

          >:)

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      • Doesnormalmatter

        Your his other account?

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        • palehorse

          No, just making a bad joke.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            I'd say. I didn't even get it! Anyways, carry on.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      The only plan is to ask to see her again or to get her number. I'm not expecting to get laid or some shit right away.

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      • DIO

        The only plan is don't have a plan.
        Do it like you would just talk to a friend or a random person.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          I see what your saying....but I'm gonna disagree. I think you should talk differently to people you find very sexually attractive. You should be more nice, more accommodating and act like you care more about everything they say. The stakes are higher.

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          • DIO

            That's exactly why it won't work. If you treat them differently, they can see you're just interested in them and won't care about you. Girls don't want someone more accommodating or that cares about everything they say. They want someone that is his own self. Not some slave that would do anything to get a bit of attention. By thinking the stakes are higher, you're making yourself look inferior from the beginning.
            There's nothing for you to disagree about. It is how it is.
            But you can stay stuck up in your way of thinking if you want to reduce your chance to get a girl to 1/100000.

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            • Doesnormalmatter

              Well my opinion on the best way to go about it is based upon experience with women. It's true that you shouldn't be OVERLY into them because that comes off as creepy, but I wouldn't say treat her excatly like a random Male friend of yours. If the chance is one in a hundred thousand than I must have done this two hundred thousand times already which is more than there are females in my state lol. The second girl I did it to gave me her number no problem and them a few dates later she followed my back to my dorm for sexy time. There was a lot more sexy time with her after that as well. Maybe I'm just that lucky.

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  • bleedingdiarhea

    Dont say " mind if I eat with you" cus it sounds wierd. Say "mind if I sit with you?". Its more warm and inviting. Try to look away shyly and space out your words to look slightly uncomfortable. It'll work I promise.

    Also dont bombard her with questions. Just ask a question and if she doesn't respond or seem to be interested in talking just wait for the next time. Remember that women always feel more comfortable when they are leading the conversation.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Okay I can make that switch to the opening line.

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      • einexile

        Stop thinking in terms of opening lines, how well you have honed your presentation, and how to direct the conversation.

        Instead, first of all, have something on your mind which you are excited about, if she expresses interest in you. Second, consider some things you would genuinely like to know about her, and chief among them should be what is she interested in, what does she care about, what is her life like, and what might she be excited to share about it with someone she has just met?

        And then please PLEASE go into the conversation without a set plan or any goal except to make a new connection with another human being, who might be an easy lay, might become your best friend, could possibly be experiencing a serious personal crisis, but probably just wants a little company and a new social connection without it turning out to be a disappointing, planned-out scam.

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        • Boojum

          "Second, consider some things you would genuinely like to know about her..."

          Pretty clear that the only thing he actually wants to know about his target is if she'd like to have sex with him.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            What are her fetishes? That's the only thing I want to know.

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        • Doesnormalmatter

          I agree 100% man. I need to care about her a lot to have a chance at making it so she's attracted to me. I'm not going to get laid off this one encounter unless she is giving of crazy signs of interest. The point here is just to get it so I can meet her again or get a phone number. The whole rest of the time is spent having a nice conversation and caring about her.

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  • itsamistake

    GOD! Surely you must aware that you are a MASSIVE creep/creeper, or if not, you are a extremely bad troll. Either way you obviously are not fit for human interaction of any sorts (anyone this is but especially women).

    I suggest you stay under the bridge where you live and get used to wanking a HELL of a lot and buy lots of lube, you are gonna need it!

    FUUCCKK!!!!!

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    • ZandyRose

      Enlightening. The dramatic response is certainly warranted.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Lol thanks for the input. Asking to sit with girls makes you a massive creeper I guess. How else are guys supposed to get women if a harmless approach like this makes you a huge creeper? Not to mention how many times I've done this or something similar in the past and girls have received it very well.

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  • Unknown_player

    Ok well if she shows no interest back off ok or its harassment

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      I know. The idea is to give myself a chance to get her interested.

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  • Sounds perfectly normal, respectful, and acceptable to me. Imo, it's not fair to consider just approaching someone and talking to them to be creepy. It's only pushing when they've displayed disinterest, which you're not doing.

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    • Doesnormalmatter

      Thanks! Are you a female? How would you respond?

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      • I'm female. If charismatic, friendly people are called social butterflies, then I'm a social slug. But to be nice, I would say yes if someone asked to sit with me. I'd answer the "benign questions" relatively normally, not giving away more information than necessary, and ask similar things in return.

        If the conversation turned towards things involving sex and relationships, then my replies would get even shorter and more awkward. If you didn't leave first, then I'd find a way to politely excuse myself.

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          Yeah it's pretty obvious that sexual questions don't bode well for most women, especially the shy type. The follow up question would be, at what point of attraction or comfort with a guy would you be okay with sexual questions? And if your a little older, what would you have thought IF you were still college age?

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          • I'm not sure that there's any point at which I'd be comfortable with being asked sexual questions in person with anyone, because I'm quite reserved irl, and I have basically no personal interest in sex or romantic relationships. This is probably not the case for the majority of women though.

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              Okay that's good to know.

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  • bullsmale1236

    Girls, at least most I've dealt with, are waiting and watching to be disappointed. They add the little instances up like putting coins into a piggy bank. Most of the times I found myself playing catch-up. Trying to make up for wrong statements or actions or looks or some other infinitesimal thing that I did or didn't manage to do or say was what I found myself doing. If you attempt to be selfless in a relationship with a girl or woman that is what you will be in the end. You will have no self left.

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      That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It sounds like you date the high-maintenance type.

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  • NoLifer

    Isnt this how most humans interact with each other?

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      That's what I though to lol. Lot of negative reactions to this not sure why. Seems like pretty tame heterosexual male behavior.

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      • NoLifer

        This is normal human interactions. Anyone who says otherwise has something wrong with them. You may get rejected regardless of how polite you are though don't let this get you down. When I read the title I thought you had a giant scheme to impress chicks but your behavior is very typical.

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          Thanks man for being calm and understanding. A lot of the negative feedback is because people know how sex crazed I usually am on iin so they think I'm tryna use and disrespect women in order to get laid.

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            I mean even if that was your motive your approach wouldn't be setting off any bells really.

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              Yeah its annoying how everyone is like "you just wanna get laid!" and it's like yeah, what else did you think? If approached like this where she is not forced to do anything she wants to do are super creepy than how else is a horny 20 year old Male supposed to pursue casual sex?

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  • GaelicPotato

    Minus the weird sex shit.

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      Seriously bro, I would not bring it up unless she shows very good signs of attraction to me. What if we talk 20-30 minutes like regular people and then I ask for her number if she seems like she shows any interest? What would you do and how would you talk to her if this was your approach? I reall wanna hear what you say your older than me.

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        Just shove a cock up her mouth.

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          Which one?

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            I don't know I was just trying to do it your way.

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  • Sunshinegirl

    Asking permission is loserville.
    You didn't learn anything in high school.
    Just freaking sit down and eat. Don't treat her like a queen who blesses you with permission.
    THAT is creepy.

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      So don't ask permission at all? I learned how to be polite through common sense.

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  • Holzman_67

    I think the success of this greatly depends on the girls feeling of loneliness sitting alone
    Are they ever truly unoccupied these days? They’ve always got something they’re doing
    I feel sorry for your generation it must be so hard

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      Yes I read her signals as the conversation moves on.

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