My solution to preventing mass shootings

I could care less about a person’s life who don’t value other ppl’s lives. If they are a threat to others, they need to be killed immediately. They shouldn’t wait til they kill a little kid before justifying killing or injuring him to prevent further killing. I do know that police do everything they can to minimize casualties and at the same time catch the guy so he suffers the consequences but I do think they need to be more aggressive towards mass shooters because this is out of control! No mercy for the merciless! This is a terrible reality that all of us are facing, my heart goes out to those families.

Unethical. No matter what the crime comitted The Constitution guarantees a fair and speedy trial anything that goes against the Constitution is unethical. Going against or compromising about the Constitution is a slippery slope.

-The Israelis just spent $27.5 million on a school that'll protect the kids from rocket fire.
-In 2021 Congress passes $1.9 billion Capitol security bill after January 6 insurrection.

You'd think we can find the money to beef up school security.

A lot of the users on the site aren't American. Kholat is one of them.

The shooter is usually inevitably stopped by a bullet. So why dont we get that bullet to him sooner? Instead of having guys with guns on call ready to come why dont we have guys with guns already at the schools and trained to shoot these ppl? That way you dont have to sit and wait for the police to get there. The sooner theyre engaged the better.

Don't most shooters get killed by police though rather than caught alive? Even if not, the huge risk of being killed while shooting up a school shows that the people who do this don't care about dying.

And regardless, harsher punishments don't deter these kinds of people, they never have. Crime has always been most prevalent in places and times with the worst punishments. If anything, severe punishment only makes the crime seem more thrilling, and it only boosts the ego of the people committing them.

He does since russia is apparently so much better with zero access to foreign material.

If the guy is caught in the act & there are plenty of witnesses to testify to the fact, I'm not against shooting the guy on the spot.

“But we can’t afford to hire all the guards and safety protocols !” Cries the nation with the $800 Billion dollar military budget who regularly bails out the richest corporations in the world

Most shooters buy guns easily. Make them harder to get and 18 year olds should not be able to get a gun. There's also banning guns altogether which would solve the problem overnight.

Ah yes the old fight fire with fire tactic. This has only ever worked well in the past

^ note my sarcasm

If the KILLER IS ALREADY KILLING, have you prevented it? Better universal mental health care for all, and through all (family, friends, non-friends, co-workers, your neighbours, literally everybody needs an awareness and to help each other, the only time we stop is when mental illness is no more.) this is the only true preventative solution.

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That's better.

Except my logic is valid. What is not valid is your argument that every person that does something like committing a mass shooting is mentally ill. Once again, some people just find themselves doing things like that. Some people just do things. It doesn't make someone mentally ill. Oh, and you already did.

Though not a "healthy reason," these are some of the reasons that you already listed above that answers the question as to why a "normal" person would do something like committing a mass shooting:

-Revenge
-Under the influence of a substance
-They were manipulated
-Because they "felt like it"

If they commit a mass shooting for these reasons, it simply demonstrates that these people were ordinary people who found themselves in troubling situations that led to them doing whatever it is they did. The people who did it because they "felt like it" were just regular people who decided one day to do something "heinous," I guess. There have been plenty of instances where your average regular person all of a sudden lands on the news. Like I said already, it doesn't make someone mentally ill.

A person who does things like committing a mass shooting may or may not be mentally unstable. But not every single person that does something like that is mentally ill. Again, some people just do things. Out of the norm does not equal mentally ill. Mental illness is not always the reason behind someone doing something "heinous". This idea that anyone that does something "out of the norm" has a mental illness or is insane is stupid.

Just because someone does those things does not imply that they have a mental illness. I don't know why every time someone does something terrible and "out of the norm," people like you immediately scream "MENTAL ILLNESS!". Some people just do things sometimes.

Mentally unstable does not mean "insane". Insane means mentally unstable, but mentally unstable does not mean insane because, as I previously stated, in order to be "insane," you have to have no idea what you are doing. You aren't insane if you're aware of what you are doing.

"Insane"? Sorry, but insanity is when you don't know what you are doing. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of school shooters that know exactly what they are doing.

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Holy shit what a dumb take. We don’t need to prove who it was because they’re still at the scene, and have no intention of getting away with anything.

Mass murderers almost always intend to die at the scene. Us immediately trying to kill them is actually part of their plan.

Catching them alive is almost always impossible as they’re also armed, and shoot themselves if nobody else carries it out for them.

They are essentially just destructive and spiteful suicides. And if you think somebody that nasty and self centred cares about goodbyes you’re very much mistaken.

Although I'm normally far-left, these situations are why I wholeheartedly support the death penalty. School shootings and torture murders... There is no reason to allow a person to live if they're done either. They've proven themselves a danger to humanity. At the very least, we'll get this guy's DNA out of the gene pool. And no, killing a killer is not morally equivalent to killing innocent people. This isn't "an eye for an eye".

Yup.
80 years since WWII
70 years since Stalin
30 years since the USSR

And yet NATO
- which was designed SOLELY to bully and “stifle the expansionism of Stalin’s USSR” -
continues to load our bordering nations with foreign aggressor military bases pointed directly at Russia and continues to grow in funding and expanding to other countries. Even “before the Ukraine drama” they surrounded us with aggression.

Modern Russia. Who has hardly grown our military budget in our entire existence. A budget of $65 billion USD. Is the “massive aggressive threat” to NATO.

NATO spends more and more money every year, multiplying their military spending, with a collective budget of over $900 Billion USD. Is the “defensive and peaceful” one.

Yet we are the paranoid ones.

Said this before, arm and train the children in proper firearm use. If they're old enough to carry a gun, they're old enough to point and shoot. Look at the child soldiers in Africa.

Yeah but that mass mining wont happen. You still need mining machines and a way to refine them. With how the economy is going for russia they wont have the money to pay said workers. No foreign company will want to invest.

Even if they did do that it would take YEARS if not DECADES to have the industry to create the modern equipment they would need for THIS conflict. So yeah nato will still have a technology advantage even when russia can make their own "modern" shit.

Human wave tatics stopped being effective after the 20s. It only worked for Russia because the nazis were advancing too far.

Hey, I hate to burst your bubble, but that won't work. I thought we were talking about how to prevent mass shootings (impossible), not what the punishment should be.