Piety and prejudice . . .is it maybe time for a new form of religion?

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Greetings, as anyone with a subscription to this site and a itchy typing finger knows, if there's anything that starts a debate around here its religion, Thanks in part to the Jihad/War on Terror , and the rapid advances in science in the last century many are asking wether religion has any place in the modern world

As cross -over between someone who was heavily influenced by religion as a child and someone who is a firm believer in science and what it can do for us, aswell as someone who has a good grasp on cultural dynamics I need a few of you to help me answer these pressing questions

How do we know that those people who wrote down those text weren't heavily influenced by the culture they where born in? The lunar symbol of Islam, an old religious symbol dating back to the days of mankinds first cities in the area, clearly indicate that the faith adopted many cultural practices in the area already, Ramadan the month of fasting is thousands of years old, the practice of women wearing veils , polygamy, marriage of adults to children , stoning - all those practices are merely in the holy text because they were followed by the people who lived there at the time, if the Bible, Tora, Koran was written by the native Americans or the Khoisan in Africa there would probably have been parts about saying a prayer of thanks before you killed an animal

How do we know that the "Give to the emperor what is owed to him" part of the bible wasn't put in by the Romans so the Celts would have to pay there taxes, and homosexual sex and relationships, its already been scientifically proven that no one "Chooses" to be gay- they just are and yet modern Christians and Muslims judge them because of how their ancestors felt about the matter 2000 years ago,the 6 day creation story was originally copied from the Egyptians when the Israelites where slave workers there

What i'm coming down to- is that don't you think its time that humanity ounce and for all cast of the shackle of our ancestors primitive beliefs, and embrace our faiths with modern scientific explanations, to stop teaching our kids the 6 day creation story in sunday school, to admit that our holy texts may be flawed and get rid of those parts that have no bearing on our modern knowledge of the universe?

Yes , the holy tects are flawed and outdated 10
No, The word of God is prefect and eternal 9
Who cares, i dont believe in it anyhow 13
Huh? 4
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  • SavageScience
    10 years ago

    "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Yet his shadow still looms. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"

    ~Friedrich Nietzsche

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    • Sweetbird
      9 years ago

      I thank you for using this oft-out of context quote in its entirety

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  • thegypsysailor
    10 years ago

    I believe it's time to end religion all together. It just doesn't add much good to humanity and more people have been killed in the name of one religion or another than by any other cause. We need to move on as a species.

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  • [Old Memory]
    10 years ago

    You can if want to, I'm quite comfortable with being a believer.

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  • Sweetbird
    9 years ago

    I voted huh because why is what we need a religion? We need answers. That's why there have been no new world-sweeping religions really created lately, what has been created is a blend of all. From what I can see, there are both good and bad effects of religion. I don't necessarily think having one will have more good effects than bad, though--there is no one size fits all truth out there, not one that covers sufficient ground for most people.

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  • RomeoDeMontague
    10 years ago

    I have a religion and here what it teaches.

    Belief

    1.Nothing is impossible and all things should be examined before fully before making a opinion about it

    Rules
    1.Logic should be applied to all decisions

    2.Do what is best for all not what is best for sum

    3.We all are the same poor,rich, middle class, black, white and whatever religion you follow and there for should all be treated with respect

    4.There is no bad ideas and everyone must work together to think of a fair compromise

    5.Rape is wrong and adults must never pursue a romantic or sexual relationship with a child/minor

    6.Children are the future so must help them become productive adults

    7.All people are responsible for there own actions

    8.You get what you give and give what you take. So treat others the way you want to be treated. If you treat people poorly you will in turn be treated poorly

    9.Respect others even if they believe something different

    10.Do not allow crime to happen. If you see it happening report it

    11.If someone gets injured trying to commit crime against another they lose all rights they violated of that victem.

    12.Never blame the victim

    13.Freely violating another person or there rights without cause means you are not the victim and will not act like it

    14. Pitty no man/women that plays the victem when they are in fact the attacker. Any who commit this act will be shamed and laughed at

    15.Honor all commitments and deals

    16.Never break your commitments

    17.Loyalty is very important

    18.Cheaters never prosper. Taking the easy way out does not help improvement

    19.respect your father and mother but do not let them disrespect or dishonor you

    20.Relationships should be based on love and respect not the desire to gain

    21.never be greedy

    22.Know that everything and anything you do will in some way effect someone else. So dont make bad decisions

    23.Stay clean and take care of your body. Your body is your temple

    24.Do not kill needlessly. Kill only if its for food and if its in self defense.

    25.All careers are needed for society to function. So do not use this as an excuse to mock someone lower on the chain.

    26.Different is not always bad. So welcome all new ideas. See how many ideas can be included to create a productive and useful plan.

    27.Not all people can lead but all good leaders know how to follow

    28.Encourage diversity but do not favour any group simply for being different from the norm

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    • RomeoDeMontague
      10 years ago

      29.Punishment should fit the crime but must also fit the severity of the crime

      30.We must all work hard to make sure ourselves and others are productive members of society

      31.We should not mock others for shortcomings but attempt to help them fix those short comings in a polite respectful manner

      32.Should not think very highly of ourselves but should have self respect. Not to the point of being arrogant however

      33.Any type of sex is ok if its between two consenting adults. It must never be forced.

      34.Desire for sex is normal. Everyone desires sex.

      35.Those with the power to change things should change them for the better not the worse

      36.It is ok to perform, direct, film, and sell porn. Long as all the participants are adults and are all willing participants. Directing, filming and selling child pornography shall end in execution

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      • Jfdp
        10 years ago

        Romeo for president

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  • dom180
    10 years ago

    On the contrary, we can be 100% certain that they *were* influenced by the culture they lived in. Everything is effected by the culture it was born into.

    Out of interest, how is it "scientifically proven that no one "Chooses" to be gay"? I agree that people don't choose their sexuality, but how is it "scientifically proven"?

    I agree that society is not served well by much of the dogma in religion.

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