Son keeps smelling my coworkers feet iin?

I am a single mother and have always worked as a server or bartender in restaurants over the years. My son is five years old now and has been around a lot of my coworkers, almost always female, who would come by before and after work. This hasn't been a problem until I started working at the newest place. A friend of mine thought it would be fun to work at Hooters together. As a single mom, I sort of thought it may be a bad idea for entirely different reasons - I didn't want rowdy clientele running into us at the grocery store and talking disrespectfully about me in front of my son... but I've had none of that.

I have had an entirely different problem... my son seems to be attracted at an early age to my coworkers after he has visited me a few times and seen us in skimpy outfits. But worse, I think my son might have one of those foot fetishes. It started one time when Julie came over to my apartment during a double-shift to hang out, still had her uniform on, and sat down at our dining room table, took her shoes and socks off and as we were chatting away, she felt something on her feet. My son had been laying down there for an unknown amount of time and sniffing her feet which were in pantyhose still. (She admitted to me later she had worn them two days so they probably stunk)

I don't want to go over all of the instances but whether they are bare, footless hosed, or in hose, he has been caught smelling lots of my female coworkers' feet both in the restaurant and visiting our home and nearly the whole restaurant knows about it. It seems the smellier they are (long shifts, socks or pantyhose reworn, etc) the more he acts out on it. I'm embarrassed and had heard about foot fetishes from friends (never dated a guy that had this), but not sure what it is about this job that brought it out - I'd never seen it before.

Has any other parent experienced this ? Not necessarily my job or workplace, but just a young boy sniffing feet of visiting friends? Should we ignore it and let him do it, is it passing? Or will it just make him worse over time? If I punish it, will it repress it and just make him crazy for it as an adult?

Please help - serious replies only please - it is a bit embarrassing to post.

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  • Lonely2

    I dont think the issue is foot fetish per se ( hes too young to actually get sexual arousal out of it and he might grow out of it , he might not) but him imposing on others without their permission....

    I wouldnt shame him, but just kind of shoo him away...." Dont bother Mary, Timmy, shes had a hard day" ...if Mary says, " oh I dont care" well then let him whiff away...but if Mary doesnt say anything you know it bothers her and he has to stop. It could even effect who even comes to your house and so you will probably have a little talk with him . Again I wouldnt focus on the " foot fetish" just the whole we cant impose on people and that they are not just objects for our own pleasures...no shame, no disgust, just we have to respect others and this includes close personal space as well.

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    • workingmom

      Good advice - thank you. It is hard for me too to say it is a fetish - I think we're somewhat clueless on when the desires truly begin, so I can't say whether it is sexual or not yet.

      One thing, which prompted my question, is if Mary says she doesn't care, is it sexual? That's the hardest part for me. For instance, if Mary slept over in the guestroom and we found him sniffing her panties and Mary even said it was cute (though I doubt she would), I think we'd all agree that scent is private and it wouldn't be appropriate (which is why Mary would doubtfully say yes). Foot scent is a bit more tricky - not sure whether to treat it like you said (a boundary that if permissible is okay) or like the panties scenario.

      Would love to hear your perspective here - thanks in advance!

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      • Lonely2

        Unfortunately, even if your workmates said it was O.K., they still might feel creeped out by it...so you're right back to reinforcing personal boundaries with him...all I am saying is dont get into the whole sexual and fetish thing...just that he needs to respect personal boundaries with others. No shaming, no its some big deal that will affect him the rest of his life....Parents often have to impose limits on kids.

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      • FtLvrIAM12

        There's nothing wrong with it, I did the same even younger and still love women's feet and toes, Smelling, Kissing, Licking and sucking all over the feet and toes.my cell is 716-708-0637 My name is Steve.

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      • FranC71

        Ur son smelling feet in nylons is normal,I am 50 and started with my foot fetish when I was around 7,would smell my moms feet under the table when she was on the phone,she wore nude hose everyday and her feet smelled great!! She never yelled at me or made me feel bad about it,when my aunts would come over id smell their feet also and they thought it’s was cute,he will just find a woman when he is older who will do this for him like I did,I met my wife when we were 15 and she wore nude knee HI’s,she let me smell her feet almost immediately and loved that I did it,unfortunately she passed away in 2018 but I had an amazing life with her and ur son will find someone who will fill that foot fetish for him,as for now I say let him smell ur pantyhose and ur feet,it’s harmless at his age!!!

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  • Avant-Garde

    I honestly don't quite know how you should go about this. I have quite a few fetishes myself (not for the foot), but the foot fetish is something that has always weirded me out. I don't think that it is uncommon for fetishes to start in childhood. Punishing or forbidding will not stop his fetish. It will probably cause him stress and emotional upset (feeling guilty). The effects of that could and most likely will carry on into adulthood.

    The thing that most concerns me is that he doesn't take boundaries into consideration. He has a lack of control in his desires. I've notice this problem in other foot fetishists too. He needs to be taught this. When he grows up and does that to women, most of them won't be so lenient in their reactions. He could get himself into a lot of trouble if he doesn't learn boundaries and self-control.

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    • workingmom

      Thank you for this advice! I think that is a key factor, just learning what is appropriate is one thing, but learning about people's boundaries is another. I am worried where the boundaries will go though - if he truly doesn't grow out of it like I hope will he just find secret ways to find it? Example: A coworker who clearly does not like him doing it and has warned him about not doing it anymore was over last night after work. We were in the kitchen talking and her shoes were by the front door. I walked in and found him sniffing her shoes. I just grabbed him by the hand and quietly pulled him away (so she wouldn't hear or know).

      I think I'll try this boundaries approach - it's a good healthy way to help him control his desires, assuming that is what is really going on. Thank you - I'll see how it goes.

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    • Lonely2

      He does NOT have a foot fetish...your sexualizing his behavior too much...he likes the smell of feet just like every kid who sticks his finger in their butts and sniffs it or picks a boogie and eats it...You KNOW you did it...he also is very young to totally understand the concept of boundaries....so he still needs education...just help him understand boundaries and personal space and respect for others...if he will not accept redirection of course we as parents have to help them understand

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      • zlofton

        .......i never stuck my finger in my ass and smelled it.

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    • amantedeheels

      Dear Avant-Garde, your advise is quite inappropriate for this situation, due to the fact that the kid might have probably born like that and did not experience the need until it activated his inner emotions. Kids at that age don't know and understand anything about boundaries and much less about violating other people's personal space and privacy. Advising the kid at that age, about what is right and wrong and the consequences of his acts, is a more effective way to making him understand about the situation than just punishing him, and prohibiting things to him. Punishing him, you only drive him into the creepy side in his adolescence because he might find it frustrating and as something that is bad but pleasurable and therefore act with negligence. By advising him, he might start thinking twice about the situation hi is putting him self into. Also, teaching him about asking permission before doing so is always better and is not frustrating as when you said no.

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      • Avant-Garde

        I re-read my comment. In it I advised against punishment. You can teach boundaries without punishment. I suppose I was being unrealistic. I don't think most kids have an automatic grasp of boundaries unless they're taught to. I certainly had my fair share of social faux pas.

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  • disthing

    He's 5.

    Kids eat worms and do weird stuff when they're 5.

    I think you're worrying far too much about this, and sexualising his behaviour too readily. He's a little kid, view him like one.

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    • workingmom

      You might be right - I don't want to project something that isn't there. I just do believe that some of this early childhood stuff can grow into adult behaviors though if left unchecked.

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      • disthing

        But frankly there's not a lot you can do to 'shape' his sexuality; just like phobias, fetishes don't necessarily have an easily identifiable, singular origin.

        The development of his sexual desires isn't something you have control over, and worrying about every quirk in his behaviour JUST IN CASE isn't going to be healthy for either of you.

        Let him be a child. Focus on teaching him basic manners and morality, to have a good work ethic and to respect others. Obviously sniffing random people's feet is potentially rude and embarrassing behaviour so I would advise telling him to stop, just as you would if he were littering or using rude words. Just try not to worry so much :)

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        • workingmom

          Thanks - your comments are truly appreciated. You are absolutely right and I will take your advice and chill a bit. I hear one of those echoes of my own mother in my behavior - one of those moments where you have to pause and go 'oh, no... i've become like her'. She was very tense about some things and I might be repeating that, so I appreciate your frank and insightful comments more than you know right now. :) Thanks again.

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  • It's a bit difficult for me to accept that he has any established "fetishes" at his age - though admittedly, this may just be wishful thinking on my part.

    You ask us if you should just ignore it. I don't know; for starters, how do your coworkers feel about it?

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    • workingmom

      Each girl is a bit different - they all universally look at me first before reacting, which led me in a bit of desperation to this forum and the comments are appreciated. I usually say 'we don't do that' and ask him to stop, which would be my default response, but was wondering implications of it. Most coworkers seem satisfied with that and he frowns and stops. I know it is a matter of time before the behavior repeats again with the same girls though.

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  • pantyrose

    Keep your kids away from other people. That's really inconsiderate of you to let your son bother other people.

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    • workingmom

      You are absolutely right - that is what came out of this and I appreciate the feedback. I am at fault for not drawing boundaries. I did tell my coworkers that I was a bit caught off guard and have been telling him no and they all seemed understanding, but I have to enforce the boundaries more clearly, I do agree. I will. Thanks for your comment!

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  • kupokupo

    Perhaps he realises that your coworkers are attractive - and he should be attracted to them - but he doesn't know how to say it or show it and his attraction is manifesting through smelling their feet, which he doesn't realise is outwith social norms.

    Try telling him normal people don't smell folk's feet.

    I'll give you one of my mum's slippers to deter him too, cause they fucking stink. When we were playing up she would hold us down and suffocate us with the smell... *shivers*

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    • workingmom

      I like this view - maybe he is attracted and just doesn't know how to show it. You and others have commented - maybe it is best just to guide him to appropriate ways to display it. Thinking about it, I'm not sure many guys ever learned how to respectfully display attraction. :)

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  • InquisitvelyCurious

    How has this worked out?

    I am a man in his 50s, and I had your son’s same desires at the same age. I am impressed how you navigated the difference between shaming and repressing the desire and the issue of violating personal boundaries. My parents were not as smart at all. The desire never goes away. It just gets stronger. However, it still has to be expressed in a manner that is respectful of others. Hopefully, he will find an acceptable outlet at the right time. It is a very frustrating desire to have.

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  • LoverofDFeet

    Hi WorkingMom. I know this thread is older but I found it and wanted to comment. I have a foot fetish. I also have a shoe fetish and a hosiery fetish. It started when I was young. Apparently, when I was a baby, my mom was folding laundry, to include pantyhose. I must have thought they were soft because I grabbed the clean pair and rubbed my face with them. Totally normal. But, as I got older like age 4, there was a neighbor, she worn heels and nylons to work everyday. I would watch for her out the window when she got home from work, quite a bit. One day, I got brave and walked out of the house when she got home. I wanted to tickle her feet because I had no clue how to express my interest in her nylons. I hadn't smelled them before so I had no clue that was a way of expressing it. But I understood tickling. My grandfather came running after me and asked where I was going. I told him I was going to tickler her feet and he chuckled but told me don't do that. The neighbor laughed too and it was not embarrassing at all for me. I think that's true because a huge issue wasn't made of it.

    In kindergarten, the teacher's aide wore suntan nylons to work everyday. I used to want to sit at her feet while she read to us, even fought with other kids about it. Nothing physical, just arguing and calling dibs. I realized at age 5 it was because of her nylon feet. Ever since my childhood, I've had a strong interest in nylon feet. Bare too, to an extent, but nylon feet especially. It is normal and common. I wouldn't say for me that it is a fetish. Fetish implies that I can on,y get pleasure from nylon feet. That simply isn't true at. I've been able to perform with women I dated who had ugly feet or who didn't wear pantyhose and no issues. But I certainly have a preference, and it is something I think about once per day.

    Here is how it progressed for me. I suppressed it as I got older, like age 7- high school. I was too embarrassed. I masturbated quite often thinking about a girl or woman I saw, as it was an instant trigger. But I never told anyone nor did I attempt anything with feet or hose. By the way, I fount my moms feet hideous and never tried to touch her feet, shoes, or hose. After high school, I went into the military and again never let it manifest itself, except privately
    with myself. My first foot experience was actually with bare feet. I sucked on my girlfriend's toes in the bath tub. She liked it and saw how excited it got me. But she never wore hose and I just couldn't touch her feet unless they were clean. But, I knew if she had on hose, I wouldnt care how long she was in her shoes. I eventually got a gf who wore hose often. She couldn't understand my desire to smell her feet but she indulged me. But I was never 100% satisfied with it because for me she never wore the right heels. Sometimes she'd wear boots and sometimes she'd wear sandals with hose. Boot feet can get gross quickly, depends on the girl. I was more interested in heels or flats with hose and without. She liked it. She got lots of foot rubs and she love having her toes sucked.

    When the internet became popular and I didn't have a gf anymore, I turned to the internet to satisfy my desires. It became unhealthy because I'd spend a lot of time doing it. It only intensified my desire. I should state that up to this point, that while girls I dated indulged me, they never had the smell at all because as you know that takes time. We call that well worn. Meaning the shoes and or the hose must be well worn. Worn nylons in brand new shoes won't smell like much. It is also true that nylon feet air out quickly so the longer the shows are off the less likely they are to smell like anything. And, from experiment, nylons that have been in a hamper don't smell like much either. Doesn't mean we won't indulge, but doesn't mean they have that smell we like.

    Over the years I dated wome,n all who thought I was a great, caring guy. None of them broke up with me over feet. One of them didn't want me messing with their feet if they might be stinky. Some I never got to introduce them to it, again out of embarrassment. I can tell you that the internet thing is the hardest to overcome. That did cause issues in one relationship. She didn't like it. I eventually quit. It was a curiosity thing. I knew I had this desire and I wanted to explore it in a harmless to others way. The fact that I never really got to he smell I thought I'd get from nylon feet didn't help any. It fueled it. But, some women just don't develop an odor and some don't wear them long enough.

    I'm now married to a great woman. She has a job where she is required to wear heels and hose. But, she breaks the heels rule. And, ironically when we first met she didn't wear hose either because she had a choice of pants or skirt. Pants = no hose, skirt = hose. She now wears hose. But not though. She switched because they changed the pants and they look like guy pants, so now she wears hose with flats and a skirt. She knows I love it. And she indulges me. I benefit bad so does she. Her feet hurt a lot. I rub them for her when ever she asks. I only kiss them when they are in hose or when they are fresh out of her flats, no walking on the ground.

    My point in all of this is that, you are correct to tell him not to sniff others' feet. It is not normal for a babysitter to let him sniff her feet. It borders on something sexual. I know first hand. I say borders because if he had sucked or toes or kissed her feet, how would that have gone over? Those are the next steps after sniffing. Rubbing feet, while harmless is another gray area. It should only be done with permission. To volunteer to do it is a bit much, unless the woman says my feet really hurt or I wish I had someone to rub my feet. Even in those cases, unless I'm in a relationship with that woman, I wouldn't dare sneak a sniff. I would just rub and let it be innocent. Feet are sexual,object to me, just like boobs are to some guys. It's very difficult for me not to look down at women's feet. I do it daily. I cannot help it. But I don't do any thing without permission bad now that I'm married I only do it with my wife. Also, because it's a sensitive issue, I stii have a tough time asking my wife to wear hose. She used to do it when we wee dating just for me, now I must ask her if it is outside of work. And when she is on her way home from work I ask if I Cavan rub her feet when she gets in. She knows what that means, it's unspoken. I still have difficulty communicating it with my wife. I'm still embarrassed and I'm 43.

    As for how foot fetishes occur: in the brain, the part if the brain that recognizes genitals and feet are right next to each other. If they touch in any way, more than likely a fetish for feet or at least an interest will develop. It's more common in men than women. As for why we like the smell, it's hard to say. One it could be a submissive thing, although I'm not submissive. I think what is more likely is that there are pheromones in women's sweat glands so it is a sexual scent. Also, whether we admit it or not, our culture promotes this sort of thing. Why else do we associate sex with sexy shoes? Why else do women worry whether their feet are funky looking or not? Why paint your toes?

    Your son will likely try to date women who wear hose. He will likely be embarrassed about it at first. He will probably be an adult before he makes himself vulnerable with it. I'm in a heathy relationship/marriage now. She's happy to get foot rubs. I just don't her obsessed with it. If she takes her shoes and hose off before I play with them I don't mention it. I respect her bad love her whether she indulges me or not. In fact, she doesn't wear heels at all and I still have yet to sniff feet that were in heels, only boots and flats. There is hope for your son. As long as you teach him boundaries at a young age he will not be a deviant when he gets older. But he might make a woman who has been on her feet all day very happy to have him rub, even if he is going to smell them too. He might reserve that for a women he trusts though. If not he could be embarrassed, like I was one time and still am if I see that particular girl.

    Be concerned but teach him those things require permission. If you do, he'll grow up with the same desires but they won't land him in hot water.

    Hope this helps!

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  • Helpful777

    From the age of 5 I had desires like this, and it got worse after a kick from a woman in high-heeled boots, and worse as I had pretty teachers who would wear sexy clothing, and much worse when I started reading foot stories on the internet, and MUCH worse when I started meeting women that indulged me and wanted to push the boundaries.

    I'm glad you realize you don't help your son with either babysitters that let him smell their feet, or by you leaving things around for him to sniff.

    From about 1994 until 2009 I did view foot fetish pictures, and masturbate over them.

    Bear in mind, what I'm about to say will be difficult for you to believe, but I hope you bear with me.

    Good news: I've had porn demons cast out, as well as foot fetish demons, and although they want back in, they are still GONE.

    I went to at least 2 churches and got prayer until I found a Pentecostal Church that actually had faith to do this. They are rare, but you can find them, especially from Tulsa Oklahoma and in the Bible belt. That being said, I've seen churches do this in California and New York.

    It's a demon, pure and simple. Here's a video testimony of a young man who had homosexual demons cast out of him, to where he enjoyed sex with his wife and had TWO CHILDREN with her. If you want to skip straight to the young man, it's about 36:10 into this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XYmsEhgi4

    From what I think I heard about the young man, the demons got to him, and he went back into the homosexual lifestyle, BUT that doesn't have to happen to your son, just as it has not happened to me.

    Summary: Your son can be free of this, but finding a church can be difficult.

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  • pantyhoseles

    I sent u some info if u need any more ill try to help you working mom

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    • workingmom

      Do you mean via Private Message? If so, never got it.

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  • JohnStone

    Hello. I write because I am deeply concerned about the well-being of your child both as a foot fetishist and as a father myself. By the sound of your story about him turning to your used clothes, and crying - I think you have gone beyond teaching him boundaries. I think that by trying to remove his fetish from his life, you have exasperated it and made it far worse. Intervention in these kinds of things is dangerous in my opinion, as even specialists don't understand it yet. I think you need to let him satisfy his desire, while also teaching him that if I woman doesn't want him to do it, then he shouldn't. That includes you too, obviously; if you don't want him to do it to you, don't let him. But, I don't think any harm was coming out of the relationship he had with your old babysitter and I think the fact you fired her shows you are being too protective. I completely disagree that a foot fetish results in the objectification of women. If a boy is taught that women are not sex objects and real humans that should be respected, he should incorporate that into his sex life. I think that the anecdotal evidence provided in this thread are personal issues, rather than scientific and should be taken lightly.
    Obviously, this is your child and it is your decision as to how you approach this problem. However, I advise you to let his sexuality develop naturally, rather than artificially intensifying it and causing distress for your son.

    Thank you for your time, I pray things get better for you and your family.

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    • workingmom

      Thanks John. As a parent too, I'm sure you wrestle with what is best. I can't say everything I did was perfect - though I have tried my best. The out of control behavior has disappeared - whether it is sublimated or redirected away time will tell.

      I'm sure once he gets older and if he still has this desire, he can find a young woman who will fulfill all his desires, but as his mother I had to set boundaries.

      Your other points are well taken about teaching him about respect for women and not to view them as sex objects. I don't necessarily agree on permitting or creating an environment for the other things to flourish but as we are both noting, we have to make what we think are the best decisions for our children.

      Thanks for your thoughts, I do deeply appreciate them!

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  • PsyLujain

    Hello working mom...

    First of all, I am psychiatrist..... I need you to understand that you don't have to worry about your son current behavior as redirecting him at this age is quite easy....

    I have seen you are not interested in going to a specialist... but I can offer you some free consultation (doing that as a part of my church service)..... if you're interested, we can arrange something....

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    • workingmom

      Thank you for your advice and for the offer but it is tough to coordinate with people on the Internet. I've posted some very personal stuff here and would feel uncomfortable meeting with anyone from this forum. I'll assume you are just being kind and will therefore thank you but it is impossible to truly tell on the Internet.

      That aside, I have considered a specialist but I don't think it seems we have a good handle on what to do. Fetishes don't seem to go away - our treatments don't suffice. I will try and redirect him in healthy ways as you and others have suggested.

      Eventually, when he is a teenager and I see him wanting to date girls in pantyhose, we'll have a gentle talk; until then, I think I'll guide him to see the whole woman and not obsess over this one part. If his sexuality grows to enjoy it and everything else when he is older, he'll be in good shape. As others have noted, I can give inputs but many factors will shape his sexuality and I can only do so much - but will do my best to help.

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  • Dave167

    I don't think you have to worry about him sniffing anyone's panties.
    And truly, I think he is not so much interested in nylons or pantyhose as he is with the way feet smell themselves. That being said, he may want to smell your bare feet and the bare feet of your friends.

    I am only saying this from my perspective as a footguy. Some guys like nylons. But I only like bare feet. I like to smell them and lick them, tickle them, etc.
    It is the feet themselves that make socks or nylons smell good.

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      in this case, it does seem he was interested in the smell of the feet in the pantyhose. maybe he never realized that the feet smelled attractive to him without. i also have tried to keep my feet very free from sweat (shoes off at my new job more often) and wash them often, even when i come home from work i'll rinse them after changing clothes and spending time with him. i've effectively removed the issue for now. i feel better as i don't think the home is a sexual training ground, though i have heard perspectives that this is where desire brews initially, i can't really handle that for now.

      thanks for giving your views - appreciated!

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      • pantyhoseles

        Hi my name Les
        I know ur worried about ur son sniffing ph feet i know for a fact the out come same thing with me i was 4 at the time i was atracted to hose feet my familey mean about it told me they send me off all kinds of stuff but i hide it for years most likly he will to it can get worse most likly he has a fetish for hose in feet its not a bad thing but it wont change in get stronger as time goes on sometimes you hafe to get involded wear hose when they run give them to him it will help the issue in hand ur not sick or anything if u do it will b easier in the long run on you and him this fetish for hose n feet can get him n troble alot it did me i started to stile hose badly at a kid sniff shoes if ur not careful he will do the same ur baby sitters would let him cause maybe they or knew someone the same way i know ur scared in all u took all hose out but he gets older it will b worse than ever if hes happy with worn hose like i said find him some or buy ankle highs wear give them to him anykind really things go alot smother in the long run if u do set rules. Send me an email ill c if i can help you out more les

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  • nahnahchow

    Hey,working mom.
    I know this is an old post. But I think I wanna share something with you.

    1st of all, let me put it in a harsh way, your son's behaviour is out of boundary. Even though he is just a 5 year old kid. I think you should consult someone professional, like a psychiatrist, or a counsellor. Before you bring your son to him/her, you wanna go there alone first , to ask the person and let him/her give you some advice. He/her should be able to tell you whether you wanna interfere your son's act or not, or better, how to interfere.

    However on the bright side, your son is just 5 years old. His act is gonna be easily corrected. Also I do not think that a 5 year old understand sex is we adult do. I remember when I was 5 years old, I think I started to find out that masturbate feels good. What I am saying is, this kind of act can go away. Tell you the truth, when I was 16,17 years old, I was crazy about sex, sadly I dun have a girlfriend, and I did do some weird act , as time pass by, they go away. Especially when I was older, had some sort of sexual activity, those weird acts go away.

    Another thing that I think you may neglected is that those uniform you and your co-workers put on, those black and white dress, tight skirt and pantyhose may triggered your son A LOT. I have foot fetish, also I have a HUGE turn on when it comes to those OL dress and pantyhose. Do not freak out, a lot of men have this kind of feelings. My point is, if you can ,separate your son from your work environment. Do not let him went back to the same scene that make him excited. Let him play with girls that from the same age. I think he is gonna feel so much better.

    You put a 30 year old professional sexy as hell secretary in front of a 5 year old boy, ohh man, he's gonna get excited. You think he is a kid, but what you dun know is he is already picturing things he wanna do with her.

    Again, dun freak out. This is what men do . We all feel this way.

    Good luck and dun stress yourself too much !

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      @nahnahchow thanks for your reply. it did give me some different perspectives and calmed some of my fears a bit. first of all, i guess i never fully considered how much the environment was triggering him. i have since changed jobs. i figured he was too young to be triggered that way but since have learned these impressions are made at a very young age.

      it does bother me he was already thinking in those terms at such a young age but i have come to accept that.

      i never considered a psychiatrist - i just figured they would repress it too much. i will consider again.

      at this point, i have stopped wearing pantyhose and removed them from the house, friends not wearing them over. he seemed upset for a while but it seems the behavior has stopped for now. perhaps i myself repressed it.

      i'm curious if i had a female friend visit who happened to wear pantyhose if it all would manifest again. i'll keep an eye out. i'm also worried it is just latent. but maybe as you said maybe it will just pass on to other interests. thanks for posting even though it has been a while - i truly appreciate your advice.

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  • Dave167

    Don't ignore it and let him do it. He won't be able to get enough of it.
    Liking the smell of feet won't pass.
    Liking the way feet smell is not unusual but it is not socially acceptable.

    At age 4, I felt like I could tell my Mom anything. I told her I "liked" the smell of feet. She immediately jumped my case and began yelling at me. I guess it was fortunate I didn't tell her how I wanted to lick feet too. From that moment I had to keep my love of foot smell and my desire for feet a top secret. She tried to straighten me out. But the fact of the matter was I had an enormous fetish for feet even at age 4 and earlier. And I have had it all of my life.

    I hope you can let him express himself to you about this. He might be embarrassed. Eventually he might open up about it with encouragement. Then you can explain to him that it is not good manners to be smelling people's feet. You can let him know people will say bad things about him.

    After discussing it with him, tell him he can't behave like this. You can't let him behave inappropriately. You may have to punish him because this desire he has acted out on has become SO STRONG, he will need punishment to make him desist. This won't make him crazy as an adult for stopping him.

    Even though it was repressed in my childhood, I turned out alright.
    I've been married for many years. Yes, I enjoy my wife's feet as part of our lovemaking.

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      Dave167,

      Sorry for my delayed response - I somehow didn't get the email notification but happy to see people are still giving advice here. I definitely will take your advice - combined with the other good advice on this post: Letting him know acceptable boundaries, telling him no when he is doing something appropriate, looking at women as complete and complex beings and not objects to fulfill his desires...

      I do like some of your perspectives though - to talk with him about his desires... and from those with the fetish, it sounds like it is in fact a desire from a young age. That is what I was wondering.

      MY other concern is that if he doesn't objectify women, he might get a 'relationship' with the objects that embed their scent (shoes, pantyhose). See above my comment about the babysitter. I got a new, more reliable babysitter with less temptation - his grandmother.. And she told me she caught him in my room sniffing my shoes. So, then I had to have a heart-to-heart talk with my mom about this situation. She seemed more like your mom - thought I was playing way too nice and needed to ship him off to a doctor for a psych evaluation.

      I didn't want to tell her about this thread. And wanted to write her off, but then this happened: I had not been to the laundrymat nor handwashed a pair of pantyhose (I was behind on this goal) - rewore a pair to work and they all smelled pretty strong. I got a runner and threw them in the trashcan in my bathroom. That night, I went to check on him and when I entered the room static electricity went underneath his sheets, so I turned the light on, and found my pantyhose laying across his belly. His pants were pulled down. I was livid, but thought about your post.

      I told him if it wasn't appropriate to sniff my friend's feet, it really wasn't appropriate to steal his mommy's worn undergarments and do that in bed with them. He began crying and said he missed Katie - the coworker that babysit him - she let him sniff her feet for hours while she talked on the phone or watched TV. He wanted to sniff them all day and thought about it constantly, since the pretty girls didn't come over, he didn't know what to do. I asked him if he'd been taking my pantyhose and he admitted he did daily.

      I now have a real problem on my hands - the behavior is obsessive. I'm seriously thinking of switching jobs. I've since switched to footless pantyhose while I look for a job. As you've said, it has become very strong. I really worry it will be a daily struggle for the rest of his life, from your's and other's comments. I'm not sure what triggers the fetish, but I don't really like something that will consume my son's attention so much.

      I have punished him for what he did with my undergarments and will continue to do so, but now it has taken on a sneaky side. I think I'll be like most women and get rid of pantyhose from my clothing altogether, and tell my friends they can't wear them around him. He'll probably forever fantasize about the good ole' days when he was a kid and got to do this stuff - I'll just watch when he's a teenager = if he starts bringing girls home wearing pantyhose, I'll know what's up and have to consider having a private talk with them.

      I'm as confused now as I was when I started this thread... but thank you all for your advice, it has helped, but not solved this issue.

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        You should comment on NEW POSTS as these posts are OLD POSTS the site needs to be updated. workingmom

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        • amazingguy

          Hi working mom. Your son does have a foot fetish. He reminds me of when I was young.You should probably get a babysitter that will let him smell her nylon feet.Otherwise he will get into trouble at school smelling girls feet or something like that.Therapy does not work. believe me I tried it.The more you tell him not to do it, the more he will do it.SORRY!!

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            Hi amazingguy,
            Thanks for your perspective. Not by choice, but for a month I did have a coworker babysit who let him enjoy sniffing her nylon feet all the time. I have since ended this arrangement (see above on this thread for the details).

            From your perspective, you think this actually helped him or are you just saying from a fetish perspective this is what he wants? What if all of my coworkers had let him sniff their feet without question? Assuming your serious, I think this would create more problems, not less.

            After thinking and dealing with this for a long time now, I think it definitely is a fetish (I'd say partialism/preference). There is a careful balance between repressing his desires (bad) and learning boundaries / how to express them.

            I've since stopped working at the place and got an office job. I removed pantyhose from my wardrobe - I feel bad about this but I don't know another way. I don't want him fantasizing or channeling that sexual preference toward his mother.

            I have thought about doing the unthinkable though - telling female friends about his preference, teaching him to ask nicely if he can rub their feet, and if they let him, to sniff them later. This will teach him healthy boundaries.

            What is not a healthy boundary and I still need advice on - is this is a sexual desire showing young. And he is obviously getting aroused. So, at his age, the problem with this plan is it would be exposing him to adult intimate contact (sniffing feet) at a young age. My struggle, is.. the cat is already out of the bag. Yet... if he got caught sniffing one of my friend's panties when they stayed the night, it doesn't mean i would teach him to ask them nicely and if they said yes, go ahead. THAT is clearly inappropriate... which makes the whole thing just confusing and odd - a foot massage isn't inappropriate.. sniffing feet borders on it.

            I'm just trying to be a compassionate mom who sets boundaries and raises him to enjoy a healthy sexuality later - not repressed, not uncontrolled, just balanced. Repressed would be : no woman with pantyhose around him ever again, shoes always on, no massages, no sniffing. Uncontrolled would be : hiring a babysitter to let him sniff her nylon feet all the time, or letting him steal my pantyhose, etc. What balanced would be is somewhere in between. Still seeking.

            Any advice appreciated!

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  • ReverendCaseyBlaylock

    First of all, to say that what your son is doing is worse than finding women attractive is wrong. It is wrong for a mother to say that her children are not in complete and utter control of their sexuality by the age of three.

    Capitalism has conditioned you to think this way. You need to get yourself some of the Spirit of Socialism­™ that your Father has and free yourself of your misconceptions.

    The perfect path to sexuality can only be achieved by revolutionary means. Some times one must divest themselves of these earthly garments to understand that their love is not rooted in pure socialism but fascism.

    With Love,
    Reverend Casey Blaylock, Cleveland TN

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      Reverend,

      My son and I have renounced Socialism and embraced Fascism and the fetish disappeared.

      Thanks for your help!

      (Just kidding - what in the world was this? Was this humor?)

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  • fellowaddict

    Dear workingmom,

    I am not sure if you are even going to read this, as the post is 8 months old, but as I read your concern and read all the answers I felt that I needed to answer. First of all, let me say that I have had your sons desires for most of my life. The question that I ask you is do you want your son to grow up to be a self focused man, or an other focused man? The thing with foot fetish or obsession is it really is all about me. It also makes women objects...like a flower...instead of recognizing them as persons. The obsession may not start off sexual...but once the two [smelling a woman's feet and sex] are joined it is hard to separate them. How does this obsession make a person selfish [unless they fight it]? I see a woman's feet, I want to smell her feet to turn me on [sexually or not]...but what about her? What does she get out of the deal? Many guys don't care, they haven't even thought about it. We live in a culture that treats women as sex objects and wonder why so many men are selfish and immature. I would begin teaching your son that in any relationship in life it is best to invest and serve and give to others. Teach him that women are not merely objects for men to ogle over and use...but are people that should be respected and treated so by men in their words and actions. I would not encourage him to smell your friends feet. I would not encourage someone with a serious drinking problem or Meth addiction to give into it...it only further deepens the problem. Try wrapping a piece of thread around your wrists...then snap it. Then wrap twice...then snap. Eventually, even the strongest person won't be able to break free. I still struggle with this obsession...but I do struggle...and I am much better off when I don't give in to it then when I do. Teach him to say no now.

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      I did read it - nine months later. I truly appreciate your insights as someone who has lived through it. Ironically, when he was questioned about why he likes the smell, he said they smelled like flowers to him. Now some may say it is innocent in that sense... but I do wonder about the sexuality.

      Unfortunately, something has happened since then which I am deeply concerned about. I had a coworker who I trusted to watch him while I was working - she did this for two months and always wore her work outfit when she came from work (other days she wouldn't but wore pantyhose it seemed). I came home early one time and she was letting him sniff her nylon feet - she was sitting on the couch and letting him sniff away.

      When I questioned her further she told me all my questioning about it made her feel sorry for him and she just wanted him to enjoy it. I was outraged as a mother and asked her never to come to my house again. So, whatever imprinting I was trying to prevent is definitely permanent I'd think - it turns out she did this for the entire two months.

      Like some in the thread suggested that I just let him, she did and it seems his behavior is less compulsive. I read somewhere else that my pantyhose could be an issue too so I've taken to handwashing these and my socks after every shift (I used to let them stack up in the hamper as I have to go to a laundromat and frankly wasn't tracking if they'd been moved or raided). I suppose some on this thread would have said just hand them to him and let him sniff mine, but I am obviously opposed to that.

      I try to ask my coworkers to change before coming over and we have a new rule to keep shoes on in the house. I feel like I've flipped to oppressive (and therefore suppressing these desires) and am thinking of changing jobs. Yet, I feel like my coworker who babysat him has 'sealed the deal' or in the best case, satiated the curiosity.. time will tell.

      Thanks for your thoughts- I truly appreciate them.

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  • Anon777

    Hi workingmom,

    From a person that likes the smell of women's feet, I doubt it's anything sexual. I didn't realize I had a foot fetish until I was like 12. But it all started from my mom's friend's feet though. So looks like your son will most likely develop a foot fetish when he gets older.

    Honestly though, there's really nothing wrong with having a foot fetish. He probably thinks your coworkers are pretty and likes their scent. Does he like Doritos by any chance? JK... Don't worry about it. Let's him smell their feet.

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      Yes, I can't shape his sexuality... but I can cause it to be repressed, which makes it even worse... Or I can encourage it which will make it relaxed for him....

      I think as others have noted, it is about teaching appropriate behavior and boundaries. I think we would all agree if a coworker left her panties on the bathroom floor and he was caught sniffing them, I would have to tell him it was inappropriate. Doubly if he started sniffing crotches. I think this highlights the problem.

      I do appreciate your inputs though - to think about!

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  • Anonymous200

    I think he'll grow out of it. He's five. Little boys love stinky things, its probably harmless. My little cousin likes to sleep on people's feet when they're wearing socks; we never thought anything of it.

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  • Drawingmud

    Let him smell their butts?

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  • Numbertwo

    Fake

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      And all I have to do is look at your comment history at http://isitnormal.com/people/Numbertwo/ to authoritatively say:

      Troll

      Not even sure why I'm responding, but I do appreciate those who actually helped with the problem with some good advice and the site isn't filled with people like you.

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