That's not faith. that's insanity. iin?

The King James version of the New Testament was completed in 1611 by 8 members of the Church of England.
There were (and still are) no original texts to translate. The oldest manuscripts we have were written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died. There are over 8000 of these old manuscripts, with no two alike.
The King James translators used none of these, anyway. Instead they edited previous translations to create a version their king and Parliament would approve.
So, 21st century Christians believe the "Word of God" is a book edited in the 17th century from 16th century translations of 8000 contradictory copies of 4th century scrolls that claim to be copies of lost letters written in the 1st century.
That's not faith. That's insanity.
What do you think?

who cares 10
Time to reevaluate my faith 1
I don't care, I believe anyway 2
I didn't know that 4
I've been taught a bunch of lies 4
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  • TheWrinklySailor

    I agree somewhat. I've met a lot of intelligent people that are religious, and I don't discount faith as a matter of principle alone.

    Having said that...I took 4 years of Latin in high-school. Part of the AP class was just translation (the Aeneid was our longest running "project").

    Anywho, I only mention it because of the experience I had whist translating from another language. It's a really interesting process, because inevitably, every time you translate something, you come to a passage where a word can mean two or three different things. In order to "chose" how the word is translated, you have to use the context of the passage, and make your decision accordingly. However, sometimes that word determines the entire meaning of the passage...so how you chose to translate it changes everything.

    There's a passage in the bible. I'm not gonna look it up word for word, but it's something like "it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven." I read somewhere that the word for camel can also be translated as "thick thread," which would change the entire meaning of the passage from "it's impossible for a rich man to get into heaven" to "it's unlikely."

    I always found that extremely interesting. The fact that the bible is translated...it means that whomever translated it made choices about what was said. I mean, even if one were to believe that it is indeed the word of god, I'm surprised that more people don't acknowledge the fact that it's passed through the imperfect hands of man.

    I always found that kind of fascinating ...

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    • wistfulmaiden

      A lot is lost in translation. That's why some ministers study the original languages. That camel example? It's just one of hundreds. But I think if you just follow the lifestyle that's what counts. I think Jesus said" it's the spirit of the law not the exact words" ( paraphrasing)

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    • Very well said.

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    • davesumba

      Precisely. When an angel saved me and told me to give my life to Jesus, it really bothered me trying to find the right Bible so I could figure out what I needed to do. The first thing that the angel told me was passages from the Bible, so it made me realize how the Bible could be words directly from God or inspired by God. But what bothered me was that the original Bible may have been the word of God but the translations might not be.

      It was hard for me to understand a lot of the Bible passages, but when I started going to church, the minister would explain the Bible using the different variations of the Greek and Hebrew words and historical context of the times it was written in, and it made so much more sense.

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    • green_boogers

      Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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  • wistfulmaiden

    Seriously? You gotta study Latin Greek and Aramaic to get the nuances of the bible perfectly. Or you can just kind of, love one another and all the important jazz:)

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    • proudwhitemoran

      Not Latin, unless you're reading the Latin Vulgate. Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek are the languages of the Bible.

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      • wistfulmaiden

        :)

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  • bucho's_butt

    Anyone who marks who cares is a complete moron. I think Christians and neo liberals are the scourge of humanity right now. They are alike in how completely backwards and irrational their views are.

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    • Thetypsysailor

      Anyone who takes any sort of religion fundamentally serious is a complete asshole. If the only thing keeping a person decent is their belief in "divine rewards", well that person is a piece of shit.

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      • bucho's_butt

        Great quote. Mathew Mcconaughey was so awesome in that show. It's a shame that the second season was such pure bullshit. I mean I was jumping out of my seat with how great the first episode of it was, and then it just fell completely flat. I felt like I was watching an episode of CSI or something.

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