To what extent of child discipline is considered child abuse?

If you have to resort to harming your child, then it's because you don't know how to parent properly. Plus publicly humiliating your kids when there's a very good chance it could lead to them being bullied in school is just irresponsible and heartless.

See this is really difficult because I want to major in psychology and one of the things I know they will teach you in child development is that hitting your child will never work. At least, not in the sense of what parents will think. Will it make them stop doing it? Perhaps. But will it be a constant reminder in their minds? Yes. Physical and verbal punishment are nearly the same- they will traumatize them. Because children learn to fear it. It's humiliating, and children haven't entered the developmental age where they can put themselves into other people's shoes. They WON'T understand why mom seems to hit them whenever he grows a bit too loud. They just know it's whats going to happen if they do. So yes, its a sure enough way to cause trauma. I mean, would you hit your dog the way some parents hit their children? Probably not, and it's something to think about

Anything with the intention of harming your child, wether it be a disciplinary action or not, is abuse.

We were taught, when I did my classes about ten years ago now, that the legal definition in NSW of allowable physical discipline of a child to be anywhere below the shoulders that did not leave a "significant mark" for a "significant period of time". Which sounds fairly meaningless to me.

I do not condone spanking. But of course I wouldn't report a parent who tapped their child on the butt for misbehaviour. I *would* suggest other methods of discipline. Particularly the ones where you head off trouble before it starts. Seems a lot of parents don't do that. Not saying you can see it coming every time, but a fair amount of attentiveness goes a long way.

There are so many studies indicating the harm physical punishment causes. And everyone will now jump on that say, "My parents hit me and I turned out fine." Yeah. Right. Whatever. My mother and grandmother hit me, too. Do I consider it abuse? No. They never beat me severely. But I certainly didn't learn shit from it, other than they lost control of themselves. How is that a good lesson?

I see physical discipline as laziness. It doesn't do shit for anything except erroding your relationship with your child, and putting them at risk of all the psychological and physiological shit they've found to be linked with it.

Any parent who knows how to raise a kid shouldnt have to resort to physical contact or public shaming.

I was smacked as a child.

Now it's a huge turn on for me, my husband bends me over his knee and goes for it. Then we fuck like rabbits. It drives me wild. This is very common for children who were smacked.

I am unable to disassociate the two things now. I can't smack my children because I don't want to play any part in their future kinks, they can figure those out on their own. Ugh. I feel sick just typing this.

No thing is abusive unless you leave welts bruises or permanent marks then that is abuse. Public shaming on social media I don't think so.

It is a good question. Probably no one knows for sure. What looks good on paper may not work in the real world.

I believe this much though -
Praise in public, reprimand in private. Kind of like at work. In other words, shaming your kids on social media is horse shit. When kids fuck up, it reflects worse on the parents than the kid, assuming the kid is under 18'ish.

It is kind of sad that so many talks about kids revolve around discipline. what a dreary subject.

One time though when my son was 11 or 12, we were at some buffet and got to talking about paddling in schools. My son and I have some morbid ass conversations. We thought it was hilarious to joke about what if a kid got paddled in front of the whole school. CPS would have been angered to the point they would have queefed menstrual chunks just hearing the conversation.

Apparently you can't lock the little shits in a closet anymore, an I think choking them out is banned... I think these days you can only cuddle them and rub there belly when that toy gets thrown through the new plasma tv after you already told them to cut it out. Yea ya gotta love the little barsteds to death, as they laugh at you cause you broke that wooden spoon on there ass an it doesn't hurt them, actually the angrier you get, the harder they laugh. oh but how they cry when the internet is gone an now there is no more FN youtube.

please stop saying people are liars about horrible sh... just ignorre it and move on or try to help in some way. basically i have literally wanted to die because of embarrassing things that have happened to me, so please no embarrassing sweet children.

I'm not afraid to admit how i would raise a kid would be considered abusive by most, but im not ashamed to admit u would be a bad parent. I'm glad i cant ever have the little basterds. Hormones sterilized me. Don't even produce any swimmers

Public shaming on social media? That should be a crime :-( I think the most scarring punishments are ones you get from your parents in public. I've never been repremanded by my parents in public, very conservative folk. If I went out of hand, they would give a slap or two. Threaten me with chillies in the mouth or threaten to take away some sort of thing I enjoyed. That said, I think people make a greater deal of corporal punishment than of emotional abuse. Personally, I think the damage and trauma emotional abuse can do lasts much longer than a momentary sting from being whacked by the belt. I also don't see the point to hitting a child. It doesn't teach the reasons why they shouldn't do something, just that they shouldn't do it. And sooner or later, when they are too old to be beaten, they will resume that behaviour because they never understood why it was wrong in the first place. It only builds resentment between parent and child. I do condone, however, that if the child is totally out of control, throwing a real tantrum and won't listen at all, a shake or smack to get their attention would be appropriate.

I didn't talk to you as it's not allowed and you know that. So never respond or comment on my life

I don't have kids but here is how I raise Kelpies. Some respond to clicks. Some raise there paw and look to affection. Some play up.

Soo i click. I look at them fierce. I scold verbally. 'Naughty'. Then I say I love u.

I won't stop tho till they do what I ask. They have to do it. I'll push their hips I'll talk to them. I will have a cross voice. But they have to do it.

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Children in india get beaten up daily in their homes and schools. Its the norm here.

I don't know.
But, a swat on the rear as a toddler is one thing.
Beatings, etc. Are something else.
What troubles me is the nails on a chalkboard yelling and cursing I see from so many walmart moms.
If you interact, work with, and pay attention to your kids.
They behave just fine.
On the occasions they dont.
You take away access to the toys they like the best.
That said, you have to provide something they care about.
If not, they'll just do as they please.
It's not easy trying to raise a child.
There's no easy answers.

I like the shaming idea. Put up embarrassing baby pictures of them, post stupid things they did or said as a toddler.