What are the chances that china will go to war with the usa

Percentage wise I'm thinking 70%ish china just really acted like a massive villain during the coronovirus. China actively set back our expectations on how bad this will be. As well as sending crappy medical supplies. Also not even mentioning the generally poor human rights of their own citizens in the communist parties control.

Either way if it's a war with china everyone's got to be on deck for the war effort this wont be a small scale effort. This would be potentially ww3.

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

    I think if theres a war between the two it would be in 10+ years. As of now our two countries are too dependent on eachother. We support their economy and they support ours. They would lose alot money without us and we would lose alot of our supplies. There's too many incentives to NOT go to war for both countries. Think about it. They even make our pharmaceuticals!

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  • Boojum

    Military conflict between the USA and China seems unlikely to me, since both countries have a lot to lose and it's difficult to see any potential gains. But anything is possible when two countries are in conflict and the leadership of one or both of them feels threatened and believes a war would play well in domestic political terms.

    It is true that China has an expansionist mindset, and Chinese diplomacy has become markedly more aggressive (or assertive, as I'm sure they'd see it) in the aftermath of the coronavirus outbreak. They're no longer responding in measured terms to the anti-China bluster by Trump and criticism by other leaders, but rather lashing out and even spreading anti-US conspiracy theories about the virus.

    But I suspect that in the short- and medium-term, the Chinese leadership is going to be preoccupied with internal economic affairs and dealing with a huge mess that's ultimately the result of failings in how the Chinese Communist party operates.

    Nobody knows how the current shit-storm will play out in the long-term, but it is clear China is going to take a huge economic hit due to a few low-level Party bureaucrats in Wuhan deciding a few months ago that they'd try to hide the outbreak of a new disease. There's poetic justice in that, but the big question is how the people of China will react to large-scale job loses caused by a sudden vanishing of demand.

    My understanding is that most of the workforce that makes all the stuff we've come to rely on are informal internal migrants, and in China, you're only able to get state-supplied medical care and a minimal level of unemployment benefit in the place where you're a registered resident. So it could be that loads of people will be forced to leave their shitty workers' barracks or ten-to-a-room city apartments and return to where their family came from and work in the fields if they want to eat.

    In any Western country, that would be a recipe for domestic strife, but Xi Jinping and the coterie at the top of the pile in China have a tight grip on the country at the moment, and culturally Chinese people tend value conformity and compliance. So maybe they'll be able to keep a lid on this, but I wouldn't be surprised if hints of domestic disturbances start to leak through the barriers in the months to come.

    Autocratic governments are very strong until the day comes when they suddenly aren't, and then things change abruptly. The complete disappearance of the Chinese Communist Party seems unlikely, but I wouldn't be astonished if one of the long-term consequences of coronavirus is a significant change in how China is governed.

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  • McSorley

    I wouldn't worry. Even if it happens any bombs they send over will fall apart before they even reach you. Their nukes probably take 4 AA batteries. Their guns and ammo are probably made of cheap PVC.

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  • jethro

    Slim to none.

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  • MrToxic

    It's significantly more likely that there'll be legal repercussions. Some states around the world have high ranking officials that feel China screwed us and owe some sort of compensation. That said, anyone that has said such a thing Chinese leaders have called out as "Bigoted racists". It would take a significant movement of people for China to even consider doing anything to even ACT like they're sorry (which they most certainly aren't). I foresee hateful acts aimed at the Chinese people that visit/live in certain places in the coming years.

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  • noneoftheabove

    Oh please. You have a demented narcissistic orange psychopathic troll who is supporting the idiots protesting against the lockdown. He denied the whole corona virus thing and said it will just go away like a miracle!! That’s why you guys are now fucked with so many dead and dying. Because of the idiot you elected as your leader. Clean up your own backyard before criticising and blaming others.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    their generals are too busy perfectin chicken recipes to command armies

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  • RoseIsabella

    I'm not interested in a war between China, and the United States, but I would be fine with declaring war on wet markets.

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  • olderdude-xx

    I don't see any major war. An Arial exchange with several shot down fighters or a small naval engagement with a few sunk ships is plausible though.

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  • Mammal-lover

    Lawls we ain't going to war with China. Unless the openly assassinate wone of our top people or something that's just not gonna happen. We would be fucked without china

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  • SmokeEverything

    The redistribution of power that would've resulted from a third world war happened a long time ago.

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    ZERO

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  • Clunk42

    If there were a war, it would end in a few hours. If America declared war on China, China would just nuke America. If China were to declare war on America, China would just nuke America.

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    • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

      chinas nukes are made from the same quality engineerin as a fuckin walmart microwave

      hell prolly from the same factory

      itd be a miracle if they worked

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      • Boojum

        Soviet domestic appliances were shit, their mass-produced automobiles were infamously crap, and most Soviet military hardware could best be called "crude but effective".

        But their missiles worked and their nuclear weapons went boom.

        In fact, the Soviet Union's Tsar Bomba atmospheric detonation in 1961 was the largest nuclear explosion ever recorded. It completely destroyed wood and brick buildings 30 miles from Ground Zero, it broke windows more than 500 miles away and the flash was visible more than 600 miles away.

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        • Bazinga

          Yup. It also sprayed neutrinos thru our neighborhood of the galaxy announcing the location of Planet Earth to alien civilizations looking for Titanium stockpiles. Now, they can make deals with Vladimir Putin to get what they want.

          There's just no way a trusting little frog can make noise in a swamp without attracting the hungry alligators.

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        • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

          relax man its a joke

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      • raisinbran

        It's like the virus escaping from the Wuhan lab... I'm surprised they haven't nuked themselves yet.

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        • KholatKhult

          “Escaping”

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  • Tommythecaty

    You mean America going to war with China. High.

    And I honestly couldn’t give any less of a shit if they do.

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