What is your complete view on pornography?

I think porn is a problem. This is coming from someone who watches it regularly. It just fucks you up when you watch too much, and it's easy to be a coomer when porn is just a click away.

As long as you do not watch heavy amounts of it then you're fine. I've watched a few straight porn and lesbian porn videos and hentai lately( which are my favorite ones )

Consumption of pornography is a pretty good litmus test for whether an individual has any discipline at all.
Pornography directly feeds immoral, hedonistic, and grotesquely gluttonous selfish desires. I have absolutely zero respect for porn addicts who promote/defend the production of pornography.

The sex industry is built on exploitation of vulnerable people. If someone is performing sexual acts for payment, they are under financial coercion due to capitalism. For-profit pornography and prostitution is not consensual, as the worker is involved because they need to make a living and lack alternatives.

Not only does the porn industry directly exploit its workers, it enforces societal malice against women and LGBT+ people disproportionately.
Porn pushes for furthering harmful fetishes, like physical harm, fetishizing youth, and taboo situations.

The production and consumption of for-profit sex work should be outlawed and carry heavy punishment for those who illicit it. And those who have worked in the industry should be reeducated

Porn directly leads to unnatural vice, which has been the ruination of many souls; just as other immoralities should be illegal, so too should porn.

I used to be kind of obsessed with porn, but after meeting the people behind it both- animators, actresses and sex workers- I can't feel anything for it but disgust or pity. Best way to quit a porn addiction, I guess.

Not going to lie. Way more NoFap zealots in here than I expected. The doomsayers really make me laugh, since most of it amounts to the old saying about growing hair on your palms. Everyone who masturbates knows it doesn't happen, yet there remain tons of people that are absolutely convinced that your life and/or soul will be sent into a death spiral if you go to PornHub.

Meanwhile, over in the countries where porn actually is restricted or banned...

My usual view of pornography is from the side. But sometimes they get that camera shoved right in there.

As long as everyone involved are legal, consenting adults, I don't care.

Trust me, if you knew what half your friends were really into sexually, you'd side-eye at least half of them.

I'm personally in recovery from masturbation and porn addiction. For me, it made it nearly impossible to achieve orgasm without porn. I was masturbating everyday. It got in the way of being on time to things. It also got in the way of me being present with my body during masturbation and while having sex with others. I always had a fantasy or video playing in my head instead of feeling the sensations or even telling the person what I actually wanted and what felt good vs just trying to fantasize to reach orgasm because I wasnt expressing to the person " hey that doesn't feel good, can we try this?"

Anyways. My answer is other because some people get addicted, some people it fucks up their perception of sex and intimacy, some people it makes them think they can degrade people without consent etc. Some people it doesn't fuck with.

Now in hindsight, the idea of only fans, porn, sugar babies, it really worries me how the person feels about themselves that they would do these things for money.

"North Korea is super based"
Only on IsItNormal... and probably North Korea. Where are you from, again?

...In human suffering

So you are right

The very concept of commodifying sex for entertainment purposes is sickening enough, not to mention the shitty industry practices. If you watch the cartoon porn you're a freak. So yeah none of it.

I boy I wish.

I fully understand why people disagree on my above points. But I truely think that's the middle ground approach to this debate.

Supporting freedom is icky like that sometimes. You got allow/ defend the worst people out of moral principle. Not all freedoms are equal but I definitely dont think porn is really that much of a fork in the road of morality.

Dont like porn? Dont look for it. Dont want kids to use it? Keep your kids from the internet. Give them a flip phone. The internet is inherently unsafe for children.

Honestly I used to really enjoy porn more when I was a teenager but now days I just find it boring most the time. It's to marketed for money rather than fun and just feels unnatural. Even oral stuff wich was always a favorite of mine they spend more time trying to look good at it rather than just trying to satisfy their partner and I just can't get into it. So pretty much no more porn for me mostly.

Now, I'm not really taking part in this argument, but, who's to say that those countries aren't lying about their suicide rates? Who's to say they're not just reporting different numbers to make themselves look better? It's not like anyone would be able to tell, right?

Who fucking cares? somebody you will never meet spending 15 minutes of their evening jerking off will never effect you. I don't get why people are chomping at the bit lately to ban porn.

All porn is fine except the ones that film illegal acts. Child, snuff, that bad shit.

When it comes to animated porn, everything goes since it's just cartoons. So yes that 700 year old vampire trope does get a pass, since no one is getting harmed. Weird but fine. If that's what pedos do in order to curb their irl tastes fine. I'd perfer that then them acting on it with real children.

When I was younger, the porn I liked best was stuff I made or wanted to make. This was a long time ago, so the social stigma was a lot worse back then, so I didn't make nearly as much porn as I wanted to make. As far back as I can remember, I wished porn was more commonplace and more socially acceptable in our daily lives.

Primates don't run off to do it in secret, they do it in front of the whole tribe. I don't see why we changed but I feel like the desire to see or be a part of sex or porn is based in our genes.

Since I don't hardly see it or make it anymore, I don't believe it's a slippery slope.

I personally am not an enjoyer of it, but if someone likes it-- and doesnt watch illegal/very weird things on it-- then i dont mind, its not my issue

I really don't care. It doesn't have an impact on me, so I don't think it really matters! I do find it annoying though.

My feelings on it are pretty neutral. If I didn’t watch it I’d just make it up in my mind.

Main thing I really disagree with in your post is the part about rape. I'm pretty sure the reason we see it as one of the most heinous crimes is because of what it does to the (most often) woman in question, not because of the concept of debauchery. People have emotionless, anonymous sex. Some even participate in orgies. None of it's anywhere near a crime in the same way rape is a crime.

Human rights though can just sit on the back burner though right? Who needs freedom of speech? Everything is peachy, because we say its peachy.

Chinas "I cant believe it's not genocide" is what I have to disagree about listing china as a country that's people are not worse off.

And you use Cuba as the only example because?

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