Why is nationalism frowned-upon in europe?
I've noticed that in most of Europe, especially in western and northern europe, nationalism is mostly frowned-upon. How come that is?
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I've noticed that in most of Europe, especially in western and northern europe, nationalism is mostly frowned-upon. How come that is?
Ww1 was going to happen no matter what. It was a powder keg that was bound to be set off from anything. The other reasons was ironically diplomacy and making alliances dragging practically every country into that slog.
I dunno, I was actually talking about that little Austrian painter, and World War 2.
Because it's a social trend to hate yourself in those countries. How many pints of blood do I have to give you to tell me I'm a good person before I realize you're a vampire?
Its not bad at all. I dont consider throwing jews in ovens and attacking everyone to represent nationalism. That was more than just nationalism. Without nationalism the UK would have surrendered. I bet some of the british nationalists that fought in ww2 were rolling over in their graves when britain gave away some of its sovereignty to join a union with germany.
You're equating patriotism with nationalism. Maybe that's semantics but I think it's useful to separate the two. Britain entered the war (in concert with France) to defend Poland.
Being a nationalist goes hand in hand with patriotism. On one end you have nationalism and the other end globalism. I called them british nationalists because it was very important to them to keep their country's sovereignty.
>Being a nationalist goes hand in hand with patriotism.
I beg to differ.
"By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’. But secondly—and this is much more important—I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests. Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality."
—George Orwell, Notes on Nationalism, 1945
It might be true that nationalism is the polar opposite of globalism, but I'm not particularly fond of either.
Patriotism is just American nationalism. It is no better than any other nationalism.
They want us guilty, apologetic and subservient so that they can replace us. Western Europe faces the systematic destruction of our cultures and weakening of our people. Europeans built the modern, civilised world and the last thing (((they))) want is for strong European men to have pride in their nations and start fighting back again.
Because in general Europeans have learned that their nations are too small to be able to operate effectively independently (which includes international affairs - especially military defense). Without US backing of NATO a number of the European countries would have likely been conquered and absorbed by Russia by now.
Thus they know that they must bind together; and most forms of nationalism interfere with that.
Probably because they're more exposed to other cultures and so have a more holistic global outlook. Being obsessed with just one country, just because it's yours, can be seen as kinda small-minded.
Because they saw the devastating results of it first hand in WWII. It’s a narrow minded short sighted viewpoint and has no place in the modern global world.
In the modern day, more people tend to be of a globalist mindset over a nationalist mindset, and many globalists believe nationalism to be anywhere from just bad to dangerous. I think globalism is idiotic, though. It's just wishful thinking.
Globalism will eventually erase culture. Change should come from within, not from an outside party.
Thinking about it, globalism isn't just moronic; it's dangerous. Globalism inherently requires compromise with people of false beliefs, and to compromise with someone of false belief is to de-legitimize your own beliefs, and allow more people to follow the false beliefs. Something that the Traditionalist Catholics have always said: "You can't compromise with heretics without becoming a heretic yourself."
Some people don't understand that not all nationalism is the far right sort...
Some people also think that you should not love your own country at all.